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A few Non-Mainstream type ...

Wed Dec 05, 2012 6:56 pm

A WIX member used the term 'mainstream' to discribe aircraft types that don't get as much airplay as the usual popular types. I like that definition. Sounds about right to me as well. Many served a great purpose and had a long service life, some not so much, but all were/are unique and special in their own way. Many of these types still survive today and it's always nice to see some of these guys around flying still. So here are just a few of the thousands of great creations that could always use some more attention IMHO. Source, San Diego Air and Space Museum Archives.

Part 1

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P-26A of the 94th Pursuit Squadron 1st Pursuit Group USAAC Edit: this image is actually pointed out as being a model, could have fooled me, very nice job. You get the point though I'm sure.

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P-26A's which hopefully these are the real deal and not a plastic model as the one above.

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Seversky P-35's assigned to the 27th Pursuit Squadron 1st Pursuit Group based at Selfridge Field Mt Clemens Michigan ca 1938-1939

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Vultee YA-19 No 5 of the 17th Attack Group March Field Calif Sept 12 1939

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O2 Owl I believe is the correct name

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Cessna AT-17A from Stockton Field at Mather Field on May 9 1942

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Douglas B-23

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Lockheed R5O-14250 staff transport for the Secretary of the Navy At San Francisco on August 4 1941

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Ryan PT-22's

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Ryan PT-21

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Douglas C-39 transport

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Ryan STM-S2

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Curtiss SNC-1

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C-45G

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Lockheed Electra East Boston 1940

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UC-43

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AT-7 42-2428 written off 6-24-43 while assigned 8th AF Bovingdon Station

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Beech UC-45F

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Howard VR2
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Re: A few Non-Mainstream type ...

Wed Dec 05, 2012 6:58 pm

Mark Allen M wrote:Image
P-26A of the 94th Pursuit Squadron 1st Pursuit Group USAAC

Nice model. :wink:

Re: A few Non-Mainstream type ...

Wed Dec 05, 2012 7:02 pm

Part 2

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Douglas XSB2D Destroyer landing

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Martin XPB2M-1R Mars over the Golden Gate Bridge 1944

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Hawaii Mars

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US Navy P-59 (now this one almost looks to be a model, maybe it is)

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YP-59A

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T-28 1955

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T-28 North American test pilot Bob Hoover 1953

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USAF SA-16A at Gowen Field Boise Idaho in August 1952

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Grumman XF9F-2 Panther

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Grumman F9F-8 Cougar
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Re: A few Non-Mainstream type ...

Wed Dec 05, 2012 7:07 pm

Upon further review the P-26 is indeed a model .... Good eye mate!!!!

... And a few more prangs for ya's ...

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1949 T-6C

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Beech UC-45F wheels-up emergency landing SN44-87142 on Jan 18 1947

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Grumman G-21 Goose at ROOSEVELT FIELD LI NY

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NAS Quonset Point 1944

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Courland Army Air Field AL 1944

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Courland Army Air Field AL 1944

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Courland Army Air Field AL 1944

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Courland Army Air Field AL 1944

Re: A few Non-Mainstream type ...

Wed Dec 05, 2012 9:08 pm

Mark Allen M wrote:Image
O2 Owl I believe is the correct name

North American Aviation 0-47
I don't believe it ever received a name.

Re: A few Non-Mainstream type ...

Thu Dec 06, 2012 4:44 am

Mark Allen M wrote:Upon further review the P-26 is indeed a model .... Good eye mate!!!!

... And a few more prangs for ya's ...

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1949 T-6C


That's an odd one - never saw a T-6 broken up like that before.

Re: A few Non-Mainstream type ...

Thu Dec 06, 2012 10:18 am

AH - those Panthers and Cougars are such incredible planes. Too bad there are none flying today - for the love of that stupid lotto ticket!!

Tom P.

Re: A few Non-Mainstream type ...

Thu Dec 06, 2012 10:33 am

Chris Brame wrote:
Mark Allen M wrote:Upon further review the P-26 is indeed a model .... Good eye mate!!!!

... And a few more prangs for ya's ...

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1949 T-6C


That's an odd one - never saw a T-6 broken up like that before.

They will bust a wing off given the chance.
One reason the Navy made a modification on how the front pilots seat rails were attached. Stock the bottom of the seat rails attach to the wing upper skin via brackets. The tube sits in a hole.
When the wing bust loose or leaves as in this photo's situation the seat is only held at the top and allows movement and increases injury to the occupant.
Navy developed brackets that attach to the steel tubes of the fuselage structure and secure the lower seat rails. Thus the seat goes where the fuselage goes.
I have some rusted ones and plan to remake them for 22 and the others here.

Re: A few Non-Mainstream type ...

Thu Dec 06, 2012 10:52 am

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Anyone ever consider re-creating this today?

Re: A few Non-Mainstream type ...

Thu Dec 06, 2012 6:54 pm

Mark Allen M wrote:Image
Courland Army Air Field AL 1944

How does one even do that?! :shock: I can't even...

JDK wrote:
Mark Allen M wrote:Image
P-26A of the 94th Pursuit Squadron 1st Pursuit Group USAAC

Nice model. :wink:

Yea, I noticed something was off right away as well.

Mark Allen M wrote:Image
Douglas XSB2D Destroyer landing

YES! AWESOME PHOTO! :supz: Loving the whitewalls. :wink:
I've always been intrigued by those late/post war torpedo and dive bomber projects. I really need to learn more about them. They always just seemed so friggin' cool.

Re: A few Non-Mainstream type ...

Thu Dec 06, 2012 7:08 pm

Noha307 wrote:
Mark Allen M wrote:Image
Courland Army Air Field AL 1944

How does one even do that?! :shock: I can't even...

I'd guess both were landing and the top one won.
I wonder if the pilot on the bottom would've made it.
Its a wonder any of them made it through training let alone combat.
The price of freedom comes at a price, even during training.

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Thu Dec 06, 2012 9:23 pm

Warbird Kid wrote:Image

Anyone ever consider re-creating this today?


I'll second that! Gorgeous looking plane.

Re: A few Non-Mainstream type ...

Thu Dec 06, 2012 11:30 pm

51fixer wrote:
Noha307 wrote:
Mark Allen M wrote:Image
Courland Army Air Field AL 1944

How does one even do that?! :shock: I can't even...

I'd guess both were landing and the top one won.
I wonder if the pilot on the bottom would've made it.
Its a wonder any of them made it through training let alone combat.
The price of freedom comes at a price, even during training.

Not a good outcome, from AviationArcheology.com http://www.aviationarchaeology.com/src/ ... set=29574-
420717 BT-13A 41-21805 73ABSq Napier Field, Dothan, AL KCRGC 5 Minor, Francis J USA FL Deadman's Bay,15 mi W of Cross City, FL
KCRGC- Killed in Crash, Ground Collision

Re: A few Non-Mainstream type ...

Fri Dec 07, 2012 1:44 am

yet another great set, thanks Mark!

Re: A few Non-Mainstream type ...

Fri Dec 07, 2012 9:20 am

Got any of Fairchild 24s? Either the UC-61 or the Argus?

Great file of photos!

Dave
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