All Stars and no Bars

[Mark Allen M]

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[Mark Allen M]

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[The Inspector]

I wonder if the pigeon had a WTF? moment when he went from zero to 125 in one second.
The B-17E flypast was @ the North end of KBFI, the I-5 corridor (East of the field on Beacon Hill) runs right along the ridge coming off the front airplanes right wing tip, those are really early E's with the flat Sperry belly turrets.
4229616 is an F-60-BO but is in a hole in Baughers lists

[C VEICH]

I wonder if the pigeon had a WTF? moment when he went from zero to 125 in one second.

I could be wrong but I would bet that the B-18 is parked on the tarmac and not airborne in that shot.

[Mark Allen M]

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[Stoney]

and the guy on the bike with a Thompson, wonder where that was?

[Aeronut]

the guy on the bike with a Thompson, wonder where that was?

The Vehicles look like British Military going by their camouflage.
I'm more concerned with the state of those step ladders, maybe the Thompson was to keep the Safety Rep away.

[Steve Nelson]

A question for you experts. The photo showing the B-24, P-38 and P-47 in the hangar. What are we looking at as far as the B-24 activity? Is that some sort of weighing pit? Looks like the fellow is holding a devise/box ... hmmm!!!

That hangar looks like the one at Wright Field now used for the NMUSAF Presidential Collection. The scale in the floor is still there, and there's a sign telling about its history.

SN

[The Inspector]

A question for you experts. The photo showing the B-24, P-38 and P-47 in the hangar. What are we looking at as far as the B-24 activity? Is that some sort of weighing pit? Looks like the fellow is holding a devise/box ... hmmm!!!

That hangar looks like the one at Wright Field now used for the NMUSAF Presidential Collection. The scale in the floor is still there, and there's a sign telling about its history.

SN

.......and, since airplanes have to be level to accurately weigh them, and the B-24 would be a monster to level without shoring, don't raise the bridge, lower the water.

[JDK]

Some factoids...

I wonder if the pigeon had a WTF? moment when he went from zero to 125 in one second.

I could be wrong but I would bet that the B-18 is parked on the tarmac and not airborne in that shot.

First photo yes, but the second photo I would say the Inspector is quite correct.

The British discovered that if you wanted to avoid mini-meat bombing, at real W.W.II aircraft speeds, you had two wrap the pigeon in newspaper, which acted like a discarding sabot, being ripped away by airflow but protecting the decelerating bird for the first few vital seconds and meant the poor thing had wings with unbroken bones and feathers on when it saw newspaper-free daylight.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sabot

Despite the apparently risible nature of pigeon work, a number of air sea rescues were made successfully by pigeon alert.

The Douglas 'A-20s' are repoed Bostons (note the RAF style ALxxx serials and camouflage).

The Vehicles look like British Military going by their camouflage.

Good spot. The P-38s are obviously US examples, the l/h truck looks like a Fordson WOT to me (I'm pretty rusty on the MV front) and the camouflage looks temperate Europe which in 1942/3 puts them in the UK; the distant background matches. Don't think it's N Africa or similar, nor the Far East.

Fordson WOT
http://cas.awm.gov.au/item/REL32545/

Regards,

[John Dupre]

Gotta wonder if there are not some future Pearl Harbor veterans in the P-40 formation shots. Wonder how many in that grouped survived December?

Also I really wish someone somewhere would paint a flying Spitfire in US markings.

[JDK]

Also I really wish someone somewhere would paint a flying Spitfire in US markings.

There was one, for a while.

[Mark Allen M]

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[The Inspector]

First DC-3/C-47 a mystery, appears to be an impressed airliner but unable to find a match for s/n on fin in Baughers or on ABCD list.
412534 B-17E Deliv to Sebring 1942, xfrd to Cheyenne 5/20/42, to Eglin 11/29/42 creashlanded @ Hendricks 4/10/42 salv 2/5/44
417880 comes up as a still active PT-17 in S. America !!??!!
412662 condemned 6/30/43
412588 (negative flopped) another shot of this airplane also in this series, to USSR
417794 C-47-DL l/n 4286 delv 4/42, xfrd to 10th A.F., WFU Cairo 8/7/43
412659 B-25C to RAF as Mitchell II MA 957 ex NEIAF N5-143, crashed in Bay of Bengal during ASR mission 11/5/44

[Lynn Allen]

The first photo shows Ryan is always working on his L-bird...