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Mon Oct 24, 2011 3:37 pm
Jay Zeamer was amazing at the controls of a B-17 on the mission for which he earned the medal
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jay_Zeamer,_Jr.
Mon Oct 24, 2011 4:00 pm
In my opinion its awesome that you let your relative "wear" the jacket and equally awesome that you took the time to visit the gravesite and to share this with all of us. People leave all kinds of things at gravesites and at memorials. Look at all the momentoes that have been left at the Vietnam Memorial in Wash DC over the years. Literally 10's of thousands of items have been left there for the soldiers whose names are etched into the wall. I'm pretty sure Robert Frazier would be very proud of your service in the Army. Do you know anything about Mr Frazier's military career?
Mon Oct 24, 2011 4:26 pm
Wrong of you to let him see the jacket? Oh, HECK no! In my eyes, that was a wonderful thing to do, and I'm sure he thinks so, too. I'd bet he's happy to know that you're thinking of him and care enough to honor him. I have no combat vets in my family (simply because of the timing of everyones' births), but I'd be doing the same thing if I did!
Mon Oct 24, 2011 4:48 pm
I think he would love it!
Wed Oct 26, 2011 2:10 pm
that really is a true honor to have that jacket made and to bring it to your relative. You def. deserve this
Wed Oct 26, 2011 3:20 pm
Interesting to note that the MoH for Ryan was for the Peacetime action of rescuing a civilian woman from a burning building. Today, that would net him the Sailor's Medal (Awarded for saving a life - normally in non-combat situations). Not detracting from the award. Just an observation.
Wed Oct 26, 2011 3:52 pm
For a guy that was a LT at 20 years old as a B-29 Navigator that tied too early. He never lived to see microwaves, color tv, landing on the moon, and 747s, so he has to be remembered. Not just him, but everyone who lost their lives in combat. I'm not sure if the dead can see us, but if they can, especially him, want them to know that they are not forgotten, which is the bigger tragedy.
I appreciate all the feedback. It's good to know he's in good company. All that I know is more or less about the mission he was shot down on. I don't know how many he went on, and where he attended Basic, OCS, Navigator training. No one in my family is sure where his letters are, that would really help.
I'm thinking about getting into the airplane delivery business, I've done a few coast to coast ferries, and I would probably name the company with some sort of reference to him or the B-29 he was on.
Wed Oct 26, 2011 3:57 pm
Pogmusic wrote:Interesting to note that the MoH for Ryan was for the Peacetime action of rescuing a civilian woman from a burning building. Today, that would net him the Sailor's Medal (Awarded for saving a life - normally in non-combat situations). Not detracting from the award. Just an observation.
I was thinking the same thing. The criteria for awarding the medal has obviously changed over the years.
Wed Oct 26, 2011 4:17 pm
Thanks for posting this.
jacket was a real honor to see on his stone. Great idea.
BTW, Post-war, Jay Zeamer flew "Liberty Belle" for Pratt & Whitney while it tested turboprops.
Jerry
Wed Oct 26, 2011 5:06 pm
I remember reading about that mission recently....truly amazing stuff.
Wed Oct 26, 2011 8:08 pm
Amazing stuff! Thanks for the pictures and bringing this to our attention...
Thu Oct 27, 2011 10:41 am
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