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2011 Horsemen Schedule, 3 Ship Sabre routine at a few shows.

Fri Feb 04, 2011 5:59 pm

From ASB...


QUOTE(Deb Mitchell @ Feb 2 2011, 07:39 AM)
Well ok then...we were going to wait to release the Horsemen schedule but since that cat clawed out of the bag...(aircraft subj to change) here you go!

Wings Over Wayne - Mustangs
Rockford - Mustangs
RIANG- Sabres
Duxford - Mustangs
Fargo - Bearcats/Corsair
Sacramento - Sabres
MCAS Miramar - Bearcats/Corsair
Houston - Sabres
NAS Jax - Bearcats/Corsair

Re: 2011 Horsemen Schedule, 3 Ship Sabre routine at a few shows.

Fri Feb 04, 2011 8:27 pm

krlang wrote:From ASB...


QUOTE(Deb Mitchell @ Feb 2 2011, 07:39 AM)
Well ok then...we were going to wait to release the Horsemen schedule but since that cat clawed out of the bag...(aircraft subj to change) here you go!

Wings Over Wayne - Mustangs
Rockford - Mustangs
RIANG- Sabres
Duxford - Mustangs
Fargo - Bearcats/Corsair
Sacramento - Sabres
MCAS Miramar - Bearcats/Corsair
Houston - Sabres
NAS Jax - Bearcats/Corsair



No Chino airshow for the lead pilot's home base of operations? What blasephemy! :D

Re: 2011 Horsemen Schedule, 3 Ship Sabre routine at a few shows.

Sat Feb 05, 2011 9:28 am

No Chino airshow for the lead pilot's home base of operations? What blasephemy! :D[/quote]

It said over on Airshow Buzz that during Chino - Dan Friedkin with a solo Sabre and Heritage Flight at Langley AFB the same weekend... And just curious - I'm familiar with the F-86 out at POF and that the Friedkin Family owns Ed Shipley's old Sabre. but does anyone know which 3rd Sabre their using ?
Mike

Re: 2011 Horsemen Schedule, 3 Ship Sabre routine at a few shows.

Sat Feb 05, 2011 3:37 pm

MKD1966 wrote:No Chino airshow for the lead pilot's home base of operations? What blasephemy! :D


It said over on Airshow Buzz that during Chino - Dan Friedkin with a solo Sabre and Heritage Flight at Langley AFB the same weekend... And just curious - I'm familiar with the F-86 out at POF and that the Friedkin Family owns Ed Shipley's old Sabre. but does anyone know which 3rd Sabre their using ?
Mike[/quote]
Having been there and involved with the Chino shows many years ago I'm sure Steve has many "Jobs" he is involved with now, as he was back then.
The Horseman Team is also a major responsibility to lead.
This is probably a red flag in any Human Factors scene to have so much work, responsibilities and things to supervise and then go lead 3 500+ mph jets in a low level acro routine.
Sometimes you have to pick priorities.

Re: 2011 Horsemen Schedule, 3 Ship Sabre routine at a few shows.

Sat Feb 05, 2011 4:58 pm

51fixer wrote:Having been there and involved with the Chino shows many years ago I'm sure Steve has many "Jobs" he is involved with now, as he was back then.
The Horseman Team is also a major responsibility to lead.
This is probably a red flag in any Human Factors scene to have so much work, responsibilities and things to supervise and then go lead 3 500+ mph jets in a low level acro routine.
Sometimes you have to pick priorities.

Yea, but he's Steve Hinton - he's Superman and can do anything when it comes to flying! :D

Re: 2011 Horsemen Schedule, 3 Ship Sabre routine at a few shows.

Sat Feb 05, 2011 7:21 pm

Steve must have so many offers and requests that part of his job must be to say no sometimes and to prioritize his time and focus.
He has been and is, the guy who most people would go to first if you had something rare and unusual to do the first flights on, such as Glacier Girl or the FW-190. I know there are only a couple of other pilots that I would consider up there.
I have wondered how he is able to transfer among so many different types, and not get confused. Having the experience in so many types must be a big asset, but might also at times be a distraction.
Although I have know Steve as long as I have been in warbirds, I haven't spent that much time talking to him. We aren't often in the same place. I have flown formation with Steve and been lucky enough to get a P-47 ride with him.I know he likes the F-86 a lot.
I did get to talk to him quite a bit about the transatlantic flight in the P-38.
I think part of his strenght must be that Steve still, after all these years, that he still loves the planes and is really interested in flying them and the day to day operation is not just a job.

Re: 2011 Horsemen Schedule, 3 Ship Sabre routine at a few shows.

Sat Feb 05, 2011 7:28 pm

warbird1 wrote:
51fixer wrote:Having been there and involved with the Chino shows many years ago I'm sure Steve has many "Jobs" he is involved with now, as he was back then.
The Horseman Team is also a major responsibility to lead.
This is probably a red flag in any Human Factors scene to have so much work, responsibilities and things to supervise and then go lead 3 500+ mph jets in a low level acro routine.
Sometimes you have to pick priorities.

Yea, but he's Steve Hinton - he's Superman and can do anything when it comes to flying! :D

I've spent many hours visiting his apt back in 79 and sitting in a hospital room several years later watching Steve recover from some nasty crashes.
I hope nobody has to go through that, even a Superman.
Point is that the decisions you make, even before you strap in, can be just as important as the "Flying" you do.
It's been a factor in funerals I've had to attend.

Re: 2011 Horsemen Schedule, 3 Ship Sabre routine at a few shows.

Sat Feb 05, 2011 8:06 pm

51fixer wrote:
warbird1 wrote:
51fixer wrote:Having been there and involved with the Chino shows many years ago I'm sure Steve has many "Jobs" he is involved with now, as he was back then.
The Horseman Team is also a major responsibility to lead.
This is probably a red flag in any Human Factors scene to have so much work, responsibilities and things to supervise and then go lead 3 500+ mph jets in a low level acro routine.
Sometimes you have to pick priorities.

Yea, but he's Steve Hinton - he's Superman and can do anything when it comes to flying! :D

I've spent many hours visiting his apt back in 79 and sitting in a hospital room several years later watching Steve recover from some nasty crashes.
I hope nobody has to go through that, even a Superman.
Point is that the decisions you make, even before you strap in, can be just as important as the "Flying" you do.
It's been a factor in funerals I've had to attend.


I know, I'm just kidding. :D No need to get so serious, I'm well aware of the consequences of poor pilot decisions. I too, have had to bury several pilot friends over the last couple of decades.

That's one quality that makes me admire Steve so much - he knows his limits and doesn't succumb to pressure from outside influences to please anyone else. Every decision he makes is with safety in mind. Unfortunately you can't say that about a lot of warbird pilots. :(

Re: 2011 Horsemen Schedule, 3 Ship Sabre routine at a few shows.

Sat Feb 05, 2011 10:25 pm

When's the Houston show? The Horsemen flying three F-86s? I may need to start some advance planning for a road trip!

Re: 2011 Horsemen Schedule, 3 Ship Sabre routine at a few shows.

Sun Feb 06, 2011 12:44 am

k5dh wrote:When's the Houston show? The Horsemen flying three F-86s? I may need to start some advance planning for a road trip!



October 15 & 16, 2011

http://wingsoverhouston.com/

Re: 2011 Horsemen Schedule, 3 Ship Sabre routine at a few shows.

Tue Feb 08, 2011 5:14 pm

MKD1966 wrote:I'm familiar with the F-86 out at POF and that the Friedkin Family owns Ed Shipley's old Sabre. but does anyone know which 3rd Sabre their using ?


They also own N860AG which I think is currently being worked on at Chino.

Jim

Re: 2011 Horsemen Schedule, 3 Ship Sabre routine at a few shows.

Tue Feb 08, 2011 6:17 pm

67N20 wrote:
k5dh wrote:When's the Houston show? The Horsemen flying three F-86s? I may need to start some advance planning for a road trip!



October 15 & 16, 2011

http://wingsoverhouston.com/


Very cool, Looks like I'll have to put this on my wish list.

Tim

Re: 2011 Horsemen Schedule, 3 Ship Sabre routine at a few shows.

Tue Feb 08, 2011 7:19 pm

AirJimL2 wrote:
MKD1966 wrote:I'm familiar with the F-86 out at POF and that the Friedkin Family owns Ed Shipley's old Sabre. but does anyone know which 3rd Sabre their using ?


They also own N860AG which I think is currently being worked on at Chino.

Jim


Ohhh... Terry Klingele's former Sabre... Thanks Jim...
Mike

Re: 2011 Horsemen Schedule, 3 Ship Sabre routine at a few shows.

Wed Feb 09, 2011 10:36 am

According to this site, they are Flying their Mustangs across the pond to Duxford...
http://fighter-collection.com/2011.html

Re: 2011 Horsemen Schedule, 3 Ship Sabre routine at a few shows.

Wed Feb 09, 2011 4:07 pm

I guess I'm gonna have to make the trip to Houston again this year! WOOT!

N860AG!!!! Great to hear that bird is getting some love. I hope she shows up at WOH...I'll have to get re-acquainted!

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