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Thu Nov 25, 2010 5:46 am
i was there last november. i went inside the hanger hotel and ask about it. they said it belonged to the owner of the hotel, and that one of the engines went bad, and it has been sitting there ever since.
www.hangarhotel.com/ is the hotel's web site. overall a nice looking plane, but could use some T.L.C.
Thu Nov 25, 2010 7:38 am
The "tug" is a combination tug and ground power unit. Southwest Services at Ellington has been using one for years.
Thu Nov 25, 2010 9:29 am
Love the "camoflauged" tug. What year was a tug like that made?
Thu Nov 25, 2010 10:06 am
Don't be fooled by the "N" number on that plane. Obviously it doesn't exist. Probably has something to do with its' somewhat illicit employment a few years back. It is the sister ship to the our ship and only flew to Fredericksburg by borrowing one of our engines. It is in pretty bad shape and will probably never fly again. The last I heard the Hotel had it for sell. $30,000 I think but don't quote me.
Thu Nov 25, 2010 1:10 pm
Obergrafeter wrote:Don't be fooled by the "N" number on that plane. Obviously it doesn't exist.
Huh ? If that's a joke, then I need it explaining to me.
Thu Nov 25, 2010 2:11 pm
WallyB wrote:Obergrafeter wrote:Don't be fooled by the "N" number on that plane. Obviously it doesn't exist.
Huh ? If that's a joke, then I need it explaining to me.

Same here... looks like it existed in Pontiac, MI in 1994; Airliners.net pic
http://www.airliners.net/photo/Douglas-DC-3C/1295554/L/
Fri Nov 26, 2010 1:40 am
Ah, the old N5PG! Sure would be nice to see her come back to Cincinnati...
Sat Nov 27, 2010 7:14 pm
I flew 21Z from '92-97 for IFL group out of Pontiac,Mi, she was purchased from Atkins a Tejas based,freight dog outfit back in '91, she was a former R4D,powered by the more powerful 1830-94 engines featuring 1350 hp a side as opposed to the 1200hp generated by the standard 1830-90,and 92 powerplants. She was a good and faithful ship,and served us well in every clime and place,from southern Ontario to the Mexican border. I do not know her history after she left us. It is a shame to see her derelict. rest well,old hoss !
Sun Nov 28, 2010 10:24 am
Great old work horse.
Tue Nov 30, 2010 10:07 pm
amen
Fri Aug 07, 2015 9:23 am
FWIW...this maybe old news. Can't vouch for the accuracy....just thought it was interesting.
http://www.airliners.net/search/photo.s ... rch=N8021Z
N8021Z / 21 (cn 13176) Officially still registered as cn 20444 (ex N5PG,C-FPAG), which indeed carried N8021Z from 1979 until it disappeared in 1981. Then circa 1988 the registration was illegally re-used on the aircraft in the photo, cn 13176 (ex N61724), apparently without informing the FAA. By 2009 it still had faded remains of its former registration N61724 visible on the fin.
Sat Aug 08, 2015 8:57 am
Yep that is why I said a couple of years ago it didn't exist.
Sat Aug 08, 2015 2:33 pm
67N20 wrote:Vacationed in Fredericksburg again last weekend
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Sausage and beer at the Auslander!!
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