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Tue Jul 20, 2010 10:26 pm
Tue Jul 20, 2010 11:20 pm
Frickin nice, thanks. The 4 surviving Essex carriers are floating history.
Tue Jul 20, 2010 11:50 pm
Few realize this, but the TF-9J was one of the Blue Angel two seaters and the TA-4J, BuNo 158722 was THE Blue Angel two seat A-4. They used 3 other TA's during the time they flew them, but only when 158722 was in maintenance. Yes, the museum is aware that they have two Blue Angel two-seat jets on board. The Cougar lived in the hangar deck in Angel paint at one point in very nice condition, and when I discovered that the TA-4 was a team jet as well, we were told that they had one Blue Angel painted airplane and they didn't need two. Apparently this frame of mind now applies to the Cougar as well since they have the Hornet. They could say that they are the only museum in the country with 3 different types of Blue Angel aircraft that actually flew with the team. Even the Naval Air Museum can't say that.
Wed Jul 21, 2010 12:15 am
Very nice! One question, what's with the DGA-15 and why is it in three tone?
Wed Jul 21, 2010 6:14 am
The Howard was used as an instrument trainer by the Navy.
Wed Jul 21, 2010 10:30 am
Thanks for the new pictures. She, and her brood, look a lot different than just a few years ago.
You would think that just being on the other side of the little ol' state I would be able to visit more often.
Wed Jul 21, 2010 1:58 pm
That F-4 Phantom looks to be an -A model...any more info on it?
Thanks either way...
--tom
Wed Jul 21, 2010 2:38 pm
Sasquatch wrote:That F-4 Phantom looks to be an -A model...any more info on it?
Thanks either way...
--tom
She is indeed an F-4A (F4H-1F) Bu. No. 145315.

The first time I saw her was in Dec 1999 when I visited the ship with my daughters. At that time she was in restoration. The next year she was on display in the hangar deck and later on the flight deck.
Wed Jul 21, 2010 2:40 pm
Very cool Clifford...that's a rare bird, then! Thank you for the update.
--Tom
Wed Jul 21, 2010 2:43 pm
TriangleP wrote:Do you know if the hanger deck lift(s) work? One of USS Midway's lifts work, IIRC. I wonder if topside aircraft are brought in when they have a hurricane.
I was wondering the same thing about the USS Yorktown since she is subject to hurricanes on the eastcoast.
Wed Jul 21, 2010 4:33 pm
Port elevator works. Don't know if they still run it with power. Saw them hand cranking it once.
The Lex is sitting in a dug trench, they backed her in filled the bottom three decks with ionized water then had tugboats backfil the trench. It will take a 30 ft storm surge to float her. I understand she is the hurricane command post for the Coast guard and their helos.
Wed Jul 21, 2010 9:50 pm
The starboard elevator was working when we filmed "Pearl Harbor" on her. Don't know now.
Thu Jul 22, 2010 2:20 am
It must be just me but that N3N sure does look pretty!!!!
Thu Jul 22, 2010 7:05 am
Clifford Bossie wrote:Sasquatch wrote:That F-4 Phantom looks to be an -A model...any more info on it?
Thanks either way...
--tom
She is indeed an F-4A (F4H-1F) Bu. No. 145315.
The first time I saw her was in Dec 1999 when I visited the ship with my daughters. At that time she was in restoration. The next year she was on display in the hangar deck and later on the flight deck.
And ten years before that in December of 1989, I shot this photo of her outside behind the Naval Aviation Museum in Pensacola in what must have been her last real colors:

Interesting that she now wears bogus Marine Corps colors.
-Derek
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