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Wed Jan 27, 2010 12:50 am
i thought this would be a fun post!!! there is alot of history & interesting trivia regarding the old tv show, but please no bob crane x rated stuff!!
colonel hogan's a-2 flight jacket of course was real, & was studio property. it was worn prior to bob crane by frank sinatra in the movie von ryan's express.
sgt. shultze's rifle was a krag.
colonel klink (werner klemperer) ... his father was an internationally known concert pianist.
most uniforms & accoutrements were original. & now worth a fortune i'm sure, with provinence!!
any dumbkoffs care to chime in???
Wed Jan 27, 2010 1:43 am
My only bit of trivia is that John Banner (Oberfeldwebel Schultz) was a sergeant in the AAF and served part of the war at the B-24/B-29 Processing Center at Herington, Kansas. He was part of the Signal Supply organization and I've walked on the foundations of the buildings he would have worked in several times.
Scott
Wed Jan 27, 2010 2:22 am
Robert Clary, aka LeBeau was a Buchenwald Concentration Camp survivor
Wed Jan 27, 2010 6:56 am
I am an avid vintage aviation clothing collector, I belong to the Vintage Leather Jackets Forum.
On that website , there are A2 Jacket experts.
Almost all have come to the conclusion that the A2 Bob Cran e wore in the series was in fact a "hollywood prop" and was not an actual A2.
Wed Jan 27, 2010 7:02 am
fleet16b wrote:I am an avid vintage aviation clothing collector, I belong to the Vintage Leather Jackets Forum.
On that website , there are A2 Jacket experts.
Almost all have come to the conclusion that the A2 Bob Cran e wore in the series was in fact a "hollywood prop" and was not an actual A2.
What about his hat?
Wed Jan 27, 2010 8:22 am
sorry, I am just pulling myself up off of the floor after laughing so hard.., trying to envision what a fun group that would be to belong to that sits around and debates the authenticity of Bob Crane's clothing.
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the330thbg on Wed Jan 27, 2010 10:45 am, edited 1 time in total.
Wed Jan 27, 2010 8:41 am
John Banner carried the Krag because he was Jewish and refused to carry a Mauser.
Wed Jan 27, 2010 9:37 am
fleet16b wrote:I am an avid vintage aviation clothing collector, I belong to the Vintage Leather Jackets Forum.
On that website , there are A2 Jacket experts.
Almost all have come to the conclusion that the A2 Bob Cran e wore in the series was in fact a "hollywood prop" and was not an actual A2.
There is a fella here on the airport that is also an avid collector/historian of aviation clothing.
This might be an interesting question to pose to him. Not that I doubt the folks on 'your' forum
but, just like to see what he says.
Wed Jan 27, 2010 12:01 pm
the330thbg wrote:sorry, I am just pulling myself up off of the floor after laughing so hard.., trying to envision what a fun group that would be to belong to that sits around and debates the authenticity of Bob Crane's clothing.
Why? Because it's so much more important debating what style of Dzuz fasteners were used on B-29s? It's just a valid a pursuit as the planes themselves, and doesn't require multiple millions of dollars.
And yes, I belong to that group as well.
Wed Jan 27, 2010 12:48 pm
Django wrote:
Why? Because it's so much more important debating what style of Dzuz fasteners were used on B-29s? It's just a valid a pursuit as the planes themselves, and doesn't require multiple millions of dollars.
And yes, I belong to that group as well.
Chad,
I get much the same feeling when I tell people I am researching and trying to preserve CONUS airfields, structures, and documents before everything is gone. A small group of us have tried to save several WWII B-29 hangars in Kansas but they've all been destroyed in the last couple of years. I've been told that only the airplanes matter, but I feel a connection to history when I walk the grounds of those fields.......
Scott
Wed Jan 27, 2010 8:27 pm
How about the episode where the Hogan's Heroes gang gathered up a fuselage of a B-25 and simulated a flight with the B-25 in a building. I think they were trying to fake out a German general. The B-25 sure looked real but of course it is hard to tell. How about some of the cargo or supply drops from the air. The cargo drops show a person jumping out of a C-47 and the personnel drop shows cargo being dropped. The bombers/cargo planes are standard WWII footage and intermixed. A B-17 starts it off and ends with a C-47 or the other way around. I think it is a great show and a good topic to discuss. I think there could be a separate posting category for aviation movies and shows. I've always wondered about the uniforms on Hogan Heroes. Are they real or Hollywood made? I especially wonder about the numerous types of vehicles they use. I am not a war vehicle buff but it would be interesting to know what they used. I have identified some trucks as American but that is as far as it goes. I find some of the cast members real "bio" is ironic and interesting when it is in regards to their internment.
How about the episode where Hogan & Klink go to England to steal a P-51. They are allowed to take it but they run out of gas or something and they bail out. The P-51 was "played around with" for intelligence purposes so the Germans could not get any secrets.
I know nothing, I hear nothing, I see nothing. Sgt. Schultz played the military part great. I'm sure being in the U.S. military helped.
Wed Jan 27, 2010 8:40 pm
On a related note:
One of the Jeeps used in the TV series *Combat* may be up for sale soon.... the owner just died & his GF may be having a clean out. He also had a T6.....
Wed Jan 27, 2010 8:47 pm
Col Klink was also Jewish and his family escaped from Germany in the late 30s.
He served in the AAF in the Pacific in WWII. I loved him on the Simpson's!!!
Thu Jan 28, 2010 2:46 am
Jack Cook wrote:Col Klink was also Jewish and his family escaped from Germany in the late 30s.
He served in the AAF in the Pacific in WWII. I loved him on the Simpson's!!!
This dream is over!!!!
Thu Jan 28, 2010 9:25 am
Django wrote:the330thbg wrote:sorry, I am just pulling myself up off of the floor after laughing so hard.., trying to envision what a fun group that would be to belong to that sits around and debates the authenticity of Bob Crane's clothing.
Why? Because it's so much more important debating what style of Dzuz fasteners were used on B-29s? It's just a valid a pursuit as the planes themselves, and doesn't require multiple millions of dollars.
And yes, I belong to that group as well.
I was more making a reference to Bob Crane.
Geez you people.., are so easy to set off.., like fanning a lit fuze.., just waiting to pounce on someone!
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