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Mon Dec 14, 2009 3:54 pm
For those of y'all in the DFW area, the Cavanaugh Flight Museum needed to make some room and put have their CASA 2111/He-111 outside for a while.
Monday was a beautiful day to do a walk-around of the plane.
I don't think they would have appreciated if I asked them to turn it a bit so the sun would be in the right place...
Mon Dec 14, 2009 6:03 pm
Very Cool. I'm always interested in this bird considering she's the closest He-111/2111 to flying.
Side Question: Did the bulk some odd 30 111's that were used in the BoB survive? I've seen many pics on
http://www.preservedaxisaircraft.com/ but it certainly doesn't account for all the examples that were around for the 1969 movie. So where did they go? Were they scrapped

, or are still waiting to be rediscovered in a storage facility in Spain somewhere?
Mon Dec 14, 2009 6:51 pm
I thought I remembered reading that the majority of them were ultimately scrapped. I imagine thirty twin-engined bombers is a LOT of planes to find homes for! I'd like to know exactly how many survived, and what their ultimate fates were/are.
Tue Dec 15, 2009 8:24 am
What a timely post. I was watching BoB last night and thinking about this one. (And how lucky I was to have seen the CAF's bird

)
I understand that it is rare, but I'd sure love to see it get back in the air one day.
Tue Dec 15, 2009 8:34 am
Here is a link to an interesting site with a lot of info, Pics, color profiles and background on the AC used, set up, and all that.
http://www.sonsofdamien.co.uk/BoBPG1.ht ... 20to%20top
Tue Dec 15, 2009 3:33 pm
Can it fly and do they ever fly it? I don't think I have ever seen it up. It looks good from outside, and ought to be on the circuit.
In one of my first airshows at Houston Ellington, I was assigned to shoot down the CAF HE-111. I was new to this, probably had about 35 hours in fighters, and didn't know too much about a He. I wasn't sure what speed they would be, but we did brief for them to stay low and I'd go over them. So we are flying in the show, and it is time for the attack on the bomber in front of the crowd on rwy 17. I was problably doing about 230 mph when it looked like I was going to arrive too late. So I addded a good slug of power and cut the corner as I descended toward them. At first they seemed a long way ahead and I wasn't gaining that fast, but by then, I was about 300 mph and ALL OF A SUDDEN THEY GOT REAL BIG IN THE WINDSCREEN. I was able to pull left and over and it probably looked good, but I still recall the rate it closed. Too bad the Spit was not fitted with some active guns shooting frangible bullets.
The CAF folks that we lost were nice guys.
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