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F101 Voodoo avionics help

Fri Nov 20, 2009 7:50 pm

I miss Gary as I bet he would have the answer for me.
Does anyone know if the Instrumentation in the voodoo had radium paint???? I picked up a Fuel flow indicator for my panel and it glows in the dark when you leve a light source shine on it for a few minutes? It is not the exact part number and comes from a F104 but the dial face is identical.. Any help much appreciated! :drinkers:

Re: F101 Voodoo avionics help

Sat Nov 21, 2009 8:19 am

I would say that it would be painted in radium. The flashlight test pretty well cinches it. As far as I know, as long as you don't lick it or eat it, it shouldn't hurt you.

As you may know the people who painted instruments and watch faces suffered some horrible injuries. They would twist the paint brushes into a point in their lips (yes with some paint on them) and start painting (and more twisting). They developed lip and mouth cancer and some (don't know how many off hand) died. Deaths were more prevalent in the wristwatch industry.

Mark H

Re: F101 Voodoo avionics help

Sat Nov 21, 2009 8:07 pm

The Radium used on a/c instrument paint is Radium 226. It's about one million times more radioactive than Uranium and has a half life of 1,600 years. Over 90% of the radiation it gives off is in the form of Gamma waves but it also emits Alpha and Beta. The Radium itself is not what glows in the dial paint. The radiation exites a phosphor (I think they used Zinc Oxide?) and that phosphor is what glows. you do not need to "charge" Ra-226 painted dials. The problem is that the phosphor eventually burns out and the dial stops glowing so just because it does not glow, do not assume it is not painted with Radium paint. Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence in this case so just make sure the glass on the face is intact. You really really don't want to ingest any Radium particles. The human body treats it like one of its neighbors on the periodic chart, Calcium, and likes to send it to your bones, right where you don't want it. I used to think all the talk about Radium was just a tempest in a teapot. These days, I have a healthy respect for anything that has Radium on it or in it. I can send you some links if you want more information about Radium on a/c instruments but suffice to say, don't lick the dial or scrape the paint off onto a cheese cracker. :D

Re: F101 Voodoo avionics help

Sun Nov 22, 2009 9:47 am

Come on Peter, no pictures!?! Don't do that to us... :D

I'll be going to visit the Snyder Voodoo next week, anything you want/need photos of let me know and I'll do my best.

-Derek

Re: F101 Voodoo avionics help

Sun Nov 22, 2009 8:56 pm

Derek, what pitcures do you want? I am always interestd in cockpit interior pics ..
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