Current status of these warbirds please.

[stickandrudder]

Hi,

Could anyone tell me the current status of the following projects.

Martin Baker 5 new-build project in the United states.

'Twilight Tear' still at Chino ? And way is this aircraft a 'touchy' subject on forums ? Whats the deal with it, people only ask about it out of interest, nothing more.

P-38 Lightning off Welsh coast, is recovery soon or are people still trying to gain legal ownership of it ? or has it not been recovered because of it
being on a protected 'bird sanctury' ?

[chris hill]

twilight is ready just waiting on paper work.

[stickandrudder]

twilight is ready just waiting on paper work.

Many, many thanks for the 'Twilight Tear' update Chris. Very good of you.
At least we know something now thanks to you, and have something to look forward to. Again the only reason for asking is out of pure interest
to see how things are going.

Many thanks. Gary

http://stickandrudder.ning.com/

[Dan K]

For the Martin Baker, John Marlin's older brother Paul maintains the official website. He is (apparently) just an e-mail away. Happy hunting.

http://johnmarlinsmb5replica.mysite.com/index.html

[jet1]

he was still having outboard prop problems. he has run it on the inboard prop only so its coming along. I hope he gets the second (first) prop back from the shop as that was his plan.

[retroaviation]

he was still having outboard prop problems. he has run it on the inboard prop only so its coming along. I hope he gets the second (first) prop back from the shop as that was his plan.

I wonder if he needs any translation units for the props? I've got four of 'em here.

Gary

[stickandrudder]

For the Martin Baker, John Marlin's older brother Paul maintains the official website. He is (apparently) just an e-mail away. Happy hunting.

http://johnmarlinsmb5replica.mysite.com/index.html

Hi Dan,

Thanks for the e-mail address, will check it out. And thanks to the others
for their input with this request. I hope one day to see this aircraft fly new-build or not, I think its great, and shows what you can do when you get an idea. Hope he brings back an extinct example from the dead. If I have got it right, the only piece left of the original aircraft, is at the RAF Museum
Hendon. I think it was scrapped around the late fifties or early sixties at RAF Bircham Newton in Norfolk. But with luck we shall be 'thrilled' once
again, weither its 18 inches longer or not. I wish him the best with this 'hobby' of his.

Gary.

http://stickandrudder.ning.com/

[Michel Lemieux]

Posted this in June

http://warbirdinformationexchange.org/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=30572&highlight=mb5

[Randy Haskin]

'Twilight Tear' still at Chino ? And way is this aircraft a 'touchy' subject on forums ? Whats the deal with it, people only ask about it out of interest, nothing more.

The issue with 'Twilight Tear' is simply about the airplane's provenance. One side claims that the airplane has a particular identity (and an attached historical value because of it), and another side claims that it doesn't have that particular identity.

Simple as that (although the details of the argument aren't quite that simple).

[stickandrudder]

'Twilight Tear' still at Chino ? And way is this aircraft a 'touchy' subject on forums ? Whats the deal with it, people only ask about it out of interest, nothing more.

The issue with 'Twilight Tear' is simply about the airplane's provenance. One side claims that the airplane has a particular identity (and an attached historical value because of it), and another side claims that it doesn't have that particular identity.

Simple as that (although the details of the argument aren't quite that simple).

Many thanks, Randy for being straight with us, Must admit, have heard about i.d issue before, and did wonder about it, as it being ex IDAF, thought, all i.d. had been stripped at the time, in case they came into the hands of the wrong people should the aircraft come down on the wrong lines. I wondered if the 'Swedes' put their mark on it before it left Sweden
but who knows. Thanks for you reply on this.

Regards, Gary.

[stickandrudder]

Posted this in June

http://warbirdinformationexchange.org/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=30572&highlight=mb5

Hi Michel,

Thanks for the info/post. Wow, would love to be there when this takes off.
I think it's wonderful, and a credit to the restorer/builder/team.

Gary for http://stickandrudder.ning.com/

[Jack Cook]

Here's the link to what Randy was talking about.
http://warbirdinformationexchange.org/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=108470&highlight=#108470

[Rajay]

That Martin Baker MB5 is one strange looking bird. It looks like a P-51H fuselage with a Griffon engine (right? - out of a late model Spitfire?) and maybe a Boulton Paul Defiant's rudder.... And the wings are small enough to have come off of a Bearcat.

The overall effect is very similar to the aforementioned Defiant (without the rear turret) or a Hurricane - overdosing on "steroids"