Jet Warbird Incident
Mon Jun 22, 2009 12:08 am
Does anyone know about an Alpha Jet in Washington State crashing?
Mon Jun 22, 2009 2:39 am
Not a crash, more like one of those 'take that Earth' type landings @ Arlington North of KPAE, gear collapsed after very, very firm arrival, minor damage and a small fuel leak. I understand that other than still trying to convince the pilot to let go of the seat cushion, there were no injuries-nothing in the local newsrag just WOM from aquaintences
Mon Jun 22, 2009 8:08 am
The Inspector wrote:more like one of those 'take that Earth' type landings
I am SO stealing that.
Glad to hear the pilot's ok, although I might recommend having that "auto land" feature checked out... 
Mon Jun 22, 2009 1:15 pm
lmritger wrote:The Inspector wrote:more like one of those 'take that Earth' type landings
I am SO stealing that.
Yeah Im stealing that too for the next time I fly with "Captain Crunch!"
Mon Jun 22, 2009 4:21 pm
lmritger wrote:The Inspector wrote:more like one of those 'take that Earth' type landings
I am SO stealing that.
Pilot's writeup in airplane logbook:
"Aircraft flies OK, but Autoland is very rough."
Crew Chief's response:
"This aircraft not equipped with Autoland."
Cheers!
Mon Jun 22, 2009 4:32 pm
Source: http://www.pnwlocalnews.com/north_sound ... 52062.html
Aircraft lands hard at Arlington Airport — Repairs close runway
By SARAH ARNEY
Arlington Times News Editor
Jun 18 2009, 2:26 PM · UPDATED
Arlington – Arlington emergency personnel responded to reports of an aircraft that landed hard at Arlington Municipal Airport shortly before 6 p.m. June 16. The two occupants of the Dornier Alpha Jet, a twin-engine German jet strike aircraft, walked away from the aircraft with no injuries. A minor fuel leak was stopped by Arlington Fire Department personnel after the incident.
The FAA and NTSB started to investigate the cause of the incident June 17, according to the city's spokesperson, Kristin Banfield.
"It can take anywhere up to a year or more," Banfield said.
The main north-south runway at the airport was closed until the aircraft was removed from the scene.
Runway 16/34 is also closed 7 a.m. to 5 p.m. daily while city crews are hydro-blasting the markings, sweeping and restriping the runway in a project funded by the airport, according to Airport Manager Rob Putnam.
"It's one of those things we do on a regular basis," Putnam said. "It's best to do the work when the weather is warm, so it seals better. But it's taking longer than we expected so the runway will be closed into next week as well," Putnam said June 17, warning pilots that they can accommodate landings with several hours of notification. For information call Putnam at 360-403-3470.
Preparation for the construction of the airport office expansion is also getting started, Putnam said.
"They have started moving the utilities to get ready."
Arlington Times News Editor Sarah Arney can be reached at sarney@arlingtontimes.com or 360-659-1300.
Mon Jun 22, 2009 5:12 pm
BLR wrote:Source: http://www.pnwlocalnews.com/north_sound ... 52062.htmlA minor fuel leak was stopped by Arlington Fire Department personnel after the incident.
Looks like they controlled the fuel leak by putting down some newspapers!
And did the fire department actually stop the leak or did they just wait for all the fuel to leak out?
Mon Jun 22, 2009 7:17 pm
if it is anything like the FD around here, they waiting until it all leaked away.
We had a tip tank strike the ground on take off in a T-33, the pilot came around and landed, and cleared the runway and stopped. I had the entry ladder and the airport employees tried to stop me from going to the plane. I ignored them, then when I went into the gear pin stowage compartment on the tank, they tried to stop me again, so I did the same thing and ignored them and got the pins out and safed the gear. I then asked the city crew to bring a fork lift so I could release the tank and turn it over to stop the leak, they refused. The FD arrived, and they refused to allow my to release the tank. The city guys sat there with a barrel and large pot catching the fuel with the pot and then dumping it into the barrel. After 30 min of this, I was able to stop the leak with rags and straps and tow the plane off the taxyway. When I got to the tiedown, I got our forlift and released the tank, rolled it so the damage was up and stopped the leak.
We were later sent a bill for 100lbs of floor dry. I went to the airport manager and in no uncertain terms told him what he could do with his bill and told him that his people refused to help me correct the problem and it was thier fault that so much floor dry was used.
He came back later after talking to the crew that was there and found out I was telling the truth and that from now one, if there is anyone there that knows the plane better then the city crews, then the city crew is to follow thier instructions.
oh, and I call a hard landing one where you are checking the runways resistance to denting.
We had a tip tank strike the ground on take off in a T-33, the pilot came around and landed, and cleared the runway and stopped. I had the entry ladder and the airport employees tried to stop me from going to the plane. I ignored them, then when I went into the gear pin stowage compartment on the tank, they tried to stop me again, so I did the same thing and ignored them and got the pins out and safed the gear. I then asked the city crew to bring a fork lift so I could release the tank and turn it over to stop the leak, they refused. The FD arrived, and they refused to allow my to release the tank. The city guys sat there with a barrel and large pot catching the fuel with the pot and then dumping it into the barrel. After 30 min of this, I was able to stop the leak with rags and straps and tow the plane off the taxyway. When I got to the tiedown, I got our forlift and released the tank, rolled it so the damage was up and stopped the leak.
We were later sent a bill for 100lbs of floor dry. I went to the airport manager and in no uncertain terms told him what he could do with his bill and told him that his people refused to help me correct the problem and it was thier fault that so much floor dry was used.
He came back later after talking to the crew that was there and found out I was telling the truth and that from now one, if there is anyone there that knows the plane better then the city crews, then the city crew is to follow thier instructions.
oh, and I call a hard landing one where you are checking the runways resistance to denting.
Mon Jun 22, 2009 7:46 pm
[/quote]A minor fuel leak was stopped by Arlington Fire Department personnel after the incident.
Looks like they controlled the fuel leak by putting down some newspapers!
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We've got absorbent chemical pads where I work that look like that. Your propably used to seeing the hogs that are commonly used to contain a pool of liquid.
Mon Jun 22, 2009 8:55 pm
bdk wrote:Looks like they controlled the fuel leak by putting down some newspapers!
I was going to say it looked like an ad for Bounty...
Mon Jun 22, 2009 10:45 pm
Ever since my first "snap together" model airplane, I've always thought the Alpha was a seriously attractive aircraft! Amazing I've never seen one in a warbird mag.
Tue Jun 23, 2009 3:57 am
The Inspector wrote:Not a crash, more like one of those 'take that Earth' type landings @ Arlington North of KPAE, gear collapsed after very, very firm arrival, minor damage and a small fuel leak.
Sure it isn't a gear-up landing? All gear doors are closed. I would expect them to crunch when the gear collapses.
Tue Jun 23, 2009 4:37 am
Wed Jun 24, 2009 8:54 pm
PJ wrote:Roger is correct...the trade name for those is Pig Mats.
PJ
PV-2 Harpoon "Hot Stuff"
www.amhf.org
Pig mats made of bird feathers.
Wed Jun 24, 2009 9:35 pm
Is that Paul Allen's ("Vulcan Warbirds") airplane?