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Jet Air Museum London Ontario

Thu Apr 02, 2009 10:11 am

This is the new website for the JAM in London

http://www.jetaircraftmuseum.ca/html/about_jam.html

Thu Apr 02, 2009 3:19 pm

Cool stuff. I wasn't even aware of their existance.

Sounds like an expensive undertaking. Any idea where they're going to find a flying Vampire? There certainly aren't many around, especially the single seater which I assume they're wanting.

Thanks for posting.

Cheers,

David

Thu Apr 02, 2009 6:38 pm

I hadn't heard anything about aquiring a Vampire before. I know they have purchased 6 T-33's and they want to get 4 or more Tutors in the near future, they are also looking into restoring a CF-100 to flight condition eventually. I'll talk to Paul (one of the members) and find out about the Vampire.

Thu Apr 02, 2009 7:07 pm

Ryan this was taken from their site under "ABOUT JAM"


The ultimate objective of the Museum is to have one or more flyable versions of major jet aircraft used by Canada’s armed forces since we entered the military jet age in 1944. These include Canada’s first, the Vampire, the CT-133 T-Bird, CT-114 Tutor and others.

Thu Apr 02, 2009 7:15 pm

Yeah I just noticed that when I was looking at the site. I talked to Paul, here's what he said:

Ryan, I think that long term, the plan is to try and get at least one of every aircraft that was once used by the CAF, but for now, baby steps. It will certainly be nice to have 6 T-Birds to build from. I'm not even sure what would be available in a Vampire at this time, but you never know what might be tucked away in the back of an old CAF hanger somewhere.

Paul

Thu Apr 02, 2009 9:08 pm

daveymac82c wrote:Cool stuff. I wasn't even aware of their existance.

Sounds like an expensive undertaking. Any idea where they're going to find a flying Vampire? There certainly aren't many around, especially the single seater which I assume they're wanting.


How about this one: http://www.geneseewarbirds.org/planes/vampire/

I don't believe Genesee Warbirds is around anymore, I'm not sure what happened to the aircraft that were actually owned or loaned to the organization.

Mon Apr 06, 2009 8:48 pm

Thought I would bring everyone up to date on the imminent arrival of our first 3 T-Birds.

The 3 are currently at Mountainview airport, and are going to be moved on Wednesday, Apr 15th. As we only have one pilot available, and a 4 hour window to move the aircraft from Mountainview, the first 2 aircraft will be flown over to Trenton, ON (10 minute hop), starting at approximately 0730. The third aircraft will depart by 1130, and will fly directly to London, ON. Arrival in London should be approximately 1200. Expect to see a couple of passes before the wheels are down. The following day, the other 2 T-Birds will arrive in London, though I don't know what time yet. We don't have the same time restrictions at Trenton as Mountainview. I'll post any more news as I get it.

Paul

Forgot to mention that these flights are VFR only. Hope for good weather!

Mon Apr 06, 2009 8:55 pm

I might be able to source a single seat Vampire in essentially airworthy ferriable) condition. PM for details if interested.

Genesee Warbirds, Batavia, NY

Mon Apr 06, 2009 9:15 pm

FYI.

Genesee Warbirds in Batavia, New York is alive and well. Last year the Board of Trustees went through a major change over and as such had a slow year in this regard. However, we did receive a donation of both a MiG 15 and a Vampire. Here is the current status:

Genesee Warbirds is a classic jet warbird museum and currenlty owns the following aircraft: MiG 15uti (currently under going full restoration); deHavilland Vampire (two seater); Fouga Magister CM-170. The museum also has three Hispano HA-200s (aka Casa Jets) on loan from members. The original single seat Vampire owned by Al Rubin of Toronto is no longer associated with Genesee Warbirds. It is our understanding that Al will donate that single seat Vampire to a Canadian museum where its flying days will end. The Genesee Warbirds collection will be maintained in flying condition. :D The museum has several additional jets ready to be brought in but has been limited by hangar space.

Currenlty the museum is operating out of four T-Hangars. Negotiations with Genesee County for a land lease have stalled. No agreement has yet been reached. If a land lease can be agreed upon, then Genesee Warbirds will build its own restoration and display facilities. More jets will then arrive, all to be restored to flying condition.

Our webpage is back up at www.geneseewarbirds.org and will be re-designed and improved this year. If your interested in joining the museum or becoming part of one of the aircraft crews, please feel free to call (585) 234-JETS or email Genesee Warbirds.

de Havilland Vampire

Mon Apr 06, 2009 9:18 pm

If you are looking for a flying two seat vampire that is in good condition but our of annual, please call Genesee Warbirds (585) 234-JETS and we will put you in touch with the owner.

Mon Apr 06, 2009 9:31 pm

Interesting about the availability of Vampires. I'll let the board know, but I think it may be a while until we're ready for that...we're just getting started. Want to get the 6 T-birds going first. Interestingly, one of our T-Birds (133500) was an original T-Bird Golden Hawk. Found a picture here:

http://aerobaticteams.net/images/GoldenHawksT-33-5.jpg

Paul

Mon Apr 06, 2009 9:42 pm

Paul Thomas wrote:Interesting about the availability of Vampires. I'll let the board know, but I think it may be a while until we're ready for that...we're just getting started. Want to get the 6 T-birds going first. Interestingly, one of our T-Birds (133500) was an original T-Bird Golden Hawk. Found a picture here:

http://aerobaticteams.net/images/GoldenHawksT-33-5.jpg

Paul


Thats cool! You guys sould paint it up like that. That would be sweet to see in formation with Hawk One.

Tue Apr 14, 2009 8:03 pm

Thought I would give everyone a heads up on the arrival of our first 3 aircraft, in case you happen to be around London (CYXU).

The first T-Bird should arrive: Wednesday around noon

The second T-Bird should arrive: Possibly also Wednesday around noon in Formation otherwise Thursday around 11:00 a.m.

The third T-Bird should arrive: Thursday around 11:00 a.m. alone or in Formation depending on Wednesday’s success

Weather looks good for tomorrow. Looking forward to getting these birds home.

Paul

Tue Apr 14, 2009 8:17 pm

Best wishes for a safe arrival tomorrow Paul! Please keep us posted!!

Wednesday 845 am update

Wed Apr 15, 2009 7:45 am

T-BIRD UPDATE (8:45 a.m Wednesday)



One T-Bird (573) is in the air and going to Trenton!!!



We expect 500 and 346 to arrive in formation around noon today!



We are rushing the pilots back to Trenton (figuratively speaking because it’s a 172) to then hopefully bring 573 in to London TODAY at 17:00-18:00 or so depending on the turn around time.

Dave Hewitt
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