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Wed Mar 04, 2009 9:11 am

That would be cool to see one of those birds fly, even if it is a repro! Hope they get better than the original 6-12 hours on an engine between overhauls!!!! That would make it a VERY expensive toy to maintain!

Wed Mar 04, 2009 9:35 am

Its still at Ione with Sanders. The plan is to debut the airplane at Moffett then continue on for the rest of the tour with the bombers. This is the tentative plan as they are still putting it back together. There was/is ALOT of work done to the airframe and it takes time. Our initial intentions were to debut her at Dallas...BUT like everything in aviation, hurry up and wait.

Jim Harley

Wed Mar 04, 2009 10:33 am

The engines are(I believe) GE (same as Cessna Citation?) Junkers-Jumo would have been interesting but a maintainance nightmare. 262crew was, or is working on the 262 and he would be more able to give you particulars.

Wed Mar 04, 2009 10:37 am

Hey Jim, the bombers usually stop by Pittsburgh in the fall. Do you thik there is a chance of seeing the 262 in the burgh, or is that outside of the safety range of the 262?

its been re-engined with a proper (durable) motor!

Wed Mar 04, 2009 11:25 am

Holedigger wrote:That would be cool to see one of those birds fly, even if it is a repro! Hope they get better than the original 6-12 hours on an engine between overhauls!!!! That would make it a VERY expensive toy to maintain!


...thank goodness! :shock: :D

Wed Mar 04, 2009 12:30 pm

sgt hawk wrote:The engines are(I believe) GE (same as Cessna Citation?) Junkers-Jumo would have been interesting but a maintainance nightmare. 262crew was, or is working on the 262 and he would be more able to give you particulars.
Doesn't this airplane have the CJ610 (learjet)? The early Citations had Pratts. I flew a Lear 24 and at max t/o (13,500 +/-), it was a performer. I can only imagine that this airplane will be a real hotrod with those engines. :D

Wed Mar 04, 2009 12:39 pm

The fall schedule isn't finalized but we normally do Pittsburg. The minimum runway length for the jet I think is around 5000'...let me say again, I think. This is going to limit the number of smaller airport stops that we do normally. Yes they are Lear engines, Rick Harris is more in tune with that end of it, I am a recip guy just trying to help out here. We are very very excited about this airplane. Its dual controlled and available for dual with an instructor endorsement. How cool is it to get Me 262 in your logbook? Stay tuned.

jim

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Wed Mar 04, 2009 1:35 pm

JimH wrote:How cool is it to get Me 262 in your logbook?


Just having a flying one in my photo album will be plenty cool. Good luck to you guys, hope to see you at your next HPN stop.

August

it would certainly be a high point in my log book!

Wed Mar 04, 2009 1:45 pm

JimH wrote:The fall schedule isn't finalized but we normally do Pittsburg. The minimum runway length for the jet I think is around 5000'...let me say again, I think. This is going to limit the number of smaller airport stops that we do normally. Yes they are Lear engines, Rick Harris is more in tune with that end of it, I am a recip guy just trying to help out here. We are very very excited about this airplane. Its dual controlled and available for dual with an instructor endorsement. How cool is it to get Me 262 in your logbook? Stay tuned.

jim

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I look forward to that!

Wed Mar 04, 2009 2:53 pm

John Cotter wrote:
sgt hawk wrote:The engines are(I believe) GE (same as Cessna Citation?) Junkers-Jumo would have been interesting but a maintainance nightmare. 262crew was, or is working on the 262 and he would be more able to give you particulars.
Doesn't this airplane have the CJ610 (learjet)? The early Citations had Pratts. I flew a Lear 24 and at max t/o (13,500 +/-), it was a performer. I can only imagine that this airplane will be a real hotrod with those engines. :D


They are CJ610s. RickH would know the exact dash number. The starting system is identical to the Lear including self-start. And IIRC, the throttles are being detented to show how the original 004 engines performed. Like JimH said, RickH is the guy to get the info from.

Wed Mar 04, 2009 3:11 pm

Would it be possible to install a drag chute set up so it could land at smaller fields?

Wed Mar 04, 2009 3:20 pm

No drag chute...the bomber minimum us 4000' so it will only limit certain areas. We are going to use larger airports near cities we normally used the smaller ones. Keep your eyes on the schedule.

jim

Wed Mar 04, 2009 4:39 pm

Sure hope it makes Dallas! :prayer:

Bomber Tour

Wed Mar 04, 2009 6:06 pm

I plan to host the Group again and we are looking at the end of July beginging of August. We have asked for the Group to be here on a weekend this year plus we are planning a Car Show, and some other Warbirds have committed to come as well. Will be a Big Weekend with a few surprizes as well. 8)

And for the Photographers I will have a spot for Excellent Photo Pit..!!!
Jim H and Chuck will "Testify" for this one.

Dayton Wright Brothers "MGY"

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Thu Mar 05, 2009 5:32 am

Why did it need so much work?
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