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Slipping And Sliding On Attu

Wed Dec 31, 2008 10:08 am

Wrecked B-25 hit by crashing C-47 on Attu Nov 1942
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Wed Dec 31, 2008 2:02 pm

Lucky 13!!! :twisted:

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Wed Dec 31, 2008 10:56 pm

That's what I was thinking

Thu Jan 01, 2009 9:56 am

Ah Jack, I always love it when you put up pics of Aleutian airplanes!

Snow-covered or mud-covered seem to be the only configurations those islands have. It never looks anything but uncomfortable.

Which does nothing to explain why I would totally like to go visit, and see the place for myself.

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Thu Jan 01, 2009 10:48 am

I've been there. You're better off right where you are :idea:

Mon Jan 05, 2009 2:59 pm

Gives me shivers just looking at those pics!

Mon Jan 05, 2009 3:12 pm

IndyJen wrote:
Which does nothing to explain why I would totally like to go visit, and see the place for myself.


Jack Cook wrote:I've been there. You're better off right where you are.


Yeah Jack. You're absolutely right.
BTDT. Second most desolate place I've ever seen.
The most desolate happened to be in Scotland...It's a long story and needs pictures which I ain't got none of.

Mudge the traveller :roll:

Mon Jan 05, 2009 3:15 pm

Reminds me of being iced in at DFW some years ago, stuck in the plane from 10:30am push-back to takeoff at 7:30PM Planes were landing but not taking off! It got real quiet in the plane as they deiced us and an inch or more sheets of ice came crashing off the wings! All those people griping about getting airborne just SHUT UP!
Ramp tractors and baggage carts sliding all over the place is kind of funny, when it's AC loaded with passengers, it is a bit of a different thing!

Did they lose more AC to weather than to the enemy up in Alaska? I never have seen solid numbers on that, but I would bet it is a safe bet!

Tue Jan 06, 2009 4:33 am

Maybe, but Jack's Black and Whites give more sense of color than the real landscape does-the place is tougher than Martian Algebra!
The chain is a very very tough place in a very tough land, the weather can go from sunny to can't see your hand in 37 seconds in the middle of July, the constant is wind, it never stops. It is beautiful in a really stark and minimalist sort of way, everything is coated with and infiltrated by volcanic grit which is essentially roughly ground glass abrasive paper, it eats machinery, and will devour you because it don't care-think of vacationing in Flanders in the Spring of 1919

Tue Jan 06, 2009 5:09 am

Even with a "good" landing, someone has to be able to come out and rescue the crew.

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PJ
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