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DOUGLAS DC-4 PROTOTYPE

Thu Nov 27, 2008 11:01 pm

Neat photo but I think I read somewhere that alot of photos of this airplane were actually ground shots that were superimposed so that it looked like they were flying. This one is somewhat suspect to me...

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Thu Nov 27, 2008 11:03 pm

Looks real to me. You can see the #2 engine on the other side spinning. Must be part of their 2-engine certification trials or a demonstration of its ability to operate on 2 engines.

Fri Nov 28, 2008 12:09 am

Neat pic! That's actually the DC-4E...no relation to the slightly smaller and better-known DC-4/C-54/R5D. The DC-4E was underpowered and unsuccesful, and the sole porotype was sold to the Japanese in the late 30s. They eventually developed a bomber from the basic design (the Nakajima G5N Shinzan, Allied code-name "Liz.") The few built served as long-range transports.

SN

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Fri Nov 28, 2008 7:52 am

steve........ good homework!!

Fri Nov 28, 2008 4:39 pm

I posted a vid of it in flight at the BAse Theater

http://warbirdinformationexchange.org/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=19861&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=60

Fri Nov 28, 2008 6:06 pm

With the 2 starboard motors dead I would expect to see a considerable deflection of the rudders to compensate.

Fri Nov 28, 2008 6:51 pm

The Japanese put out a story that it crashed in Tokyo Bay with a bunch of Japanese Naval Officers on it.

It was discovered later that it was the basis for their other planes.

This story is repeated in the beginning of the Douglas C-54/DC-4 Pilot's Traning Manual...

Fri Nov 28, 2008 11:32 pm

Glyn wrote:With the 2 starboard motors dead I would expect to see a considerable deflection of the rudders to compensate.



Look closely, especially at the starboard rudder. The pilot is definitely imputing a lot of left rudder.

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