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P-47 Doublebolt Before & After

Mon Sep 01, 2008 10:26 pm

With all the talk about the Collins TP-51B, how about a lil respect for the "Doublebolt" P-47 conversion? This is one of my favorite "field conversions" and the subject of a recent model I built. I didn't like the color of the original though, so I went with the 9th air force, 348th fighter squadron paint job. I added the "Doublebolt" nose art for fun!!I tried to get the same shot "before" and "after"!

Here is the Original:
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Here is my Version:
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And some close ups of the original canopy:
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I had alot of fun with the model and display. I hope some one on the WIX can contribute more pictures of this unique P-47 razorback.

Tue Sep 02, 2008 9:05 am

Now there is an idea for a real resto, a two seat Bolt for giving out rides in! You can get a ride in almost every type of bird left except for the T'Bolt.

Tue Sep 02, 2008 9:29 am

Nice diorama, but I keep thinking that it looks like the props are backwards. Did you scratchbuild the whole thing? The reason that I ask is that most kits already have them molded correctly...

Ryan

Tue Sep 02, 2008 9:39 am

Jesse C. wrote:Now there is an idea for a real resto, a two seat Bolt for giving out rides in! You can get a ride in almost every type of bird left except for the T'Bolt.



I thought for sure the POF razorback had seating for two (or did you mean that POF won't provide rides?).

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Tue Sep 02, 2008 9:45 am

RyanShort1 wrote:Nice diorama, but I keep thinking that it looks like the props are backwards. Did you scratchbuild the whole thing? The reason that I ask is that most kits already have them molded correctly...

Ryan


Ryan, the twist is right, he just has them installed with a negative pitch. :)

Guess it must've also been the testbed for the R2800 with a reversible pitch prop. :)

Tue Sep 02, 2008 10:54 am

RyanShort1 wrote:Nice diorama, but I keep thinking that it looks like the props are backwards. Did you scratchbuild the whole thing? The reason that I ask is that most kits already have them molded correctly...

Ryan


I thought the same thing and almost posted on it but I figured my old eyes were getting a bit older :-)

The prop looks like it's past the high pitch stops which is not normal for the Jug. Normally you would leave the prop in full increase for shutdown which is low pitch/high RPM. Makes it a whole lot easier to start :-))

ride

Tue Sep 02, 2008 11:38 am

The PoF P-47 has a back seat or had. Steve Hinton was nice enough to give me a ride in it. It reminds one of a limo, not a sports car. It is big and stable and the engine is pretty quite with a much lower pitch than a Mustang or a Spitfire.

Tue Sep 02, 2008 11:39 am

See Bill, you need an R-2800 in your Spit!

Re: ride

Tue Sep 02, 2008 1:43 pm

Bill Greenwood wrote:The PoF P-47 has a back seat or had. Steve Hinton was nice enough to give me a ride in it. It reminds one of a limo, not a sports car. It is big and stable and the engine is pretty quite with a much lower pitch than a Mustang or a Spitfire.


With those stacks lined up with my ears like they were, I remember my first thought after running a 51 up to takeoff power years ago was " GOD! This thing is LOUD!!!"
:-)))

Tue Sep 02, 2008 5:31 pm

I think it would awesome to see someone create this specific type of thunderbolt. What would the designation be though? TP-47B?

I wonder if theirs a decent pair of wings out there that someone can take and make an all new fuselage (or most of it anyways) and make essentially the Thunderbolt version of the CF's TP-51C?

Tue Sep 02, 2008 5:42 pm

b29flteng wrote:See Bill, you need an R-2800 in your Spit!


Perish the very thought of ruining those beautiful lines!!!! :wink:
Like the two seat 'Bolt
Perhaps you would like to try your hand at this two seater field mod next?
At least it has a proper engine :hide: :lol:

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Tue Sep 02, 2008 7:31 pm

lestweforget wrote:At least it has a proper engine :hide:


Who needs to hide over a comment like that! :spit2

Ryan

Tue Sep 02, 2008 8:11 pm

Hello, the kit I used was just a cheap "Testors" kit. I cut the razorback down, added the headrest to the tunnel on the rear cockpit and redid the canopy. The kit is 1/48 scale so I was trying to find a T-6 or SBD canopy to use that would have been more accurate, but I could not find the right shape .I admit the prop looks wrong, it was awward to assemble and did not come out right. I was disapointed with the whole fit and finish of this kit, so I purchased a "Hasegawa" 1/48 kit P-47D razorback that seems much better. P-47 razorback kits are bit difficult to find these days at the model shop!

As for the debate regarding the "TP-47" conversion, I just think it would be hit on the airshow circuit. I don't advocate modifying an existing airframe, but a "newbuild" with a couple of original parts could be a starting point. The TP-51B is one of the greatest "mods" I have ever seen. To be technical the Curtiss TP-47G would the most accurate for a true two place, duel control. Here are some pics if have never heard of this:

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Two Curtiss built P-47G-15-CU's were converted to TP-47G-16-CU status. The aircraft had full dual controls, operating turbosupercharger, full armament and had the upper half of the main fuel tank removed to make room for the conversion.

As for the fuselage, the P-47 is constructed in two halves with a seperate tail section. It is much more difficult to "reconstruct" than a P-51 Mustang.
Here are the upper sections pictured under construction:

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And the tail section:

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Tue Sep 02, 2008 9:42 pm

While were on the topic of big R-2800 beasts, what about a TF4U-1?

I've only seen one very shotty pic of a dual control Corsair. Wonder what the advantages would be for a bird like that?

Tue Jan 13, 2009 11:51 am

I never knew about this. Neat.

Love the Mustang hack!
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