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Tue Aug 05, 2008 9:37 pm
B-17G "Sugar" 381st BG 11-43
Tue Aug 05, 2008 10:15 pm
How did they get the B-17 up there on the cart? A B-17 is a heavy airplane. Maybe some big enough cranes?
Tue Aug 05, 2008 10:46 pm
PbyCat-Guy wrote:How did they get the B-17 up there on the cart? A B-17 is a heavy airplane. Maybe some big enough cranes?
Probably air bags. The trailer might have some kind of lifting mechanism as well.
Rich
Tue Aug 05, 2008 10:51 pm
Number three blades bent fwd, number fours bent backwards! HUH

Gear collapse perhaps? No chin turret damage looks like, thought they always dug in the chin during a bellyflop?
Tue Aug 05, 2008 10:57 pm
It looked like #3 was the only one on the right side making any power at touchdown. Also, the left gear is down, and the right is up, so that is why the chin turret did not dig in.
Wed Aug 06, 2008 3:14 am
result of a landing on one main wheel.... left wheel was down, right wheel wasn't.... engine #3 was on full power, its sister next to it only windmilling... therefore the different bent blades.... the port engines were not affected or damaged in this incident...
381st BG 534th BS - a/c B-17G 42-37721 coded GD-L - salvaged 19th May 1944
Martin
Wed Aug 06, 2008 3:52 am
In the late 1930s, the RAF explored using 'accelerators' (catapults) to get fully loaded bombers into the air, in part to avoid the restrictions placed by using pre-war all-over grass fields.
Aircraft up to Lancaster size were stressed for the job,
and test fired...
Metalled runways proved more viable.
Wed Aug 06, 2008 4:10 am
51fixer wrote:PbyCat-Guy wrote:How did they get the B-17 up there on the cart? A B-17 is a heavy airplane. Maybe some big enough cranes?
Probably air bags. The trailer might have some kind of lifting mechanism as well.
Rich
An excellent modern solution 51Fixer, posing an interesting question. When did the 1st Weisenheimer come
along who saw a fuel/or whatever bladder as a lifting tool...Just curious..
Wed Aug 06, 2008 5:45 am
airnutz wrote:51fixer wrote:PbyCat-Guy wrote:How did they get the B-17 up there on the cart? A B-17 is a heavy airplane. Maybe some big enough cranes?
Probably air bags. The trailer might have some kind of lifting mechanism as well.
Rich
An excellent modern solution 51Fixer, posing an interesting question. When did the 1st Weisenheimer come
along who saw a fuel/or whatever bladder as a lifting tool...Just curious..

Colour film of a B-17 belly landing at Podington & of lifting by airbags. Even with both wheels retracted the No. 3 & 4 props end up looking like the pic. above. Not sure they would lift enough to get that trolley underneath though.
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_WepIIcW9w
Wed Aug 06, 2008 6:54 am
Thanks Flat! Cool..still would like to know the airbag what/who/when..I know..trivial..
but a 'tooltimer' curiosity..
Wed Aug 06, 2008 10:05 am
Chin turret but no angled cheek guns, looks like F model nose glass
I read somewhere that a few late F models got chin turrets - is this maybe one of those?
Wed Aug 06, 2008 10:11 am
as mentioned earlier
serial 42-37721 - a Douglas-Long Beach B-17G-10-DL
Wed Aug 06, 2008 10:13 am
This site Old SAR pilot posted has some killer photos of the repair work post crash...
http://www.8thafhsoregon.com/archive/Jacob-Kaplan
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