NY B-52 scrapped?

[Broken-Wrench]

http://cgi.govliquidation.com/auction/v ... GLSPPR9488

[Steve Nelson]

Well that just sucks. She looks like she was in pretty rough shape, but....darn.

SN

[Randy Haskin]

Blame the treaties that require such complete destruction of this stuff.

I'll have to dig out the CFE treaty copy I have at work that specifies exactly how aircraft that are covered in the treaty are to be de-milled. It's pretty significant.

[Shay]

Although I'm not aware of it's Ser No. This airframe was used by the Air Force Research Laboratory at it's Stockbridge NY location.

This facility along with the Newport location has been referred to as the "Upside-Down Air Force" due to several types of aircraft mounted on pedestals, a lot of time upside down. Most of research I'm aware of has to deal with antenna propagation.


http://www.frontiernet.net/~atlasf/A56UDAF.htm


The B-52 in question (you'll notice an inverted C-130 to the south west)

http://virtualglobetrotting.com/map/35030/view/?service=1


Stockbridge Facility
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/facility/stockbridge.htm


Sad site to see but she did her job. Would love to get that cockpit.

Shay
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Last edited by Shay on Sun Jul 27, 2008 2:29 pm, edited 1 time in total.

[Nathan]

Why did they have to scrap it?

[Steve Nelson]

Sad to see her go, but at least she served a purpose. I was afraid she was a musuem example that had been allowed to simply rot.

SN

[RMAllnutt]

Why did they have to scrap it?

There are treaties with Russia on how many strategic nuclear capable bombers are allowed. The aircraft that are disposed of have to be scrapped to a point that they can never fly again. It has to be verifiable too, so they are cut up and left outside for a specific period so that spy satellites can prove they have been eliminated. These days they pretty much shred everything that's left. It's a shame, but we can't keep them all (much as I would like to though... they all have interesting histories).

Richard

[Shay]

http://virtualglobetrotting.com/map/35030/view/?service=1


Anyone take a look to the west of the Herc?

I see two AH-1 Cobras. No ID on the camoflage wings, B-66 maybe?

And are the fuse and wing surfaces B-47?

What do you all think?


Shay
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Semper Fortis

[Nathan]

http://virtualglobetrotting.com/map/35030/view/?service=1


Anyone take a look to the west of the Herc?

I see two AH-1 Cobras. No ID on the camoflage wings, B-66 maybe?

And are the fuse and wing surfaces B-47?

What do you all think?


Shay


Semper Fortis

My first thought to the wings to the right of the C-130....KC-135?
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[tom d. friedman]

only a fool would cut through that red tape!!

[jamesintucson]

http://virtualglobetrotting.com/map/35030/view/?service=1


Anyone take a look to the west of the Herc?

I see two AH-1 Cobras. No ID on the camoflage wings, B-66 maybe?

And are the fuse and wing surfaces B-47?

What do you all think?


Shay


Semper Fortis

My first thought to the wings to the right of the C-130....KC-135?
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The white wing laying by itself is certainly KC-135. The camo ones look like F-111 to me.

James

[The Inspector]

More than likely, it's 'house cleaning' time there. The 52 already had the 47 section and tail cut off and was mounted off the ground on steel supports so it wasn't going anywhere within the 30 day reactivation timetable set up in the SALT treaties. I helped de-mil the B-52G @ the MoF restoration facility @ KPAE several years ago. WE had a specific list of items to be cut, removed, or disabled, and the parts had to be presented to a representative of the USAF for verification. The engine turbine shafts had to be cut (done through the cowls with a plasma cutter, crude but effective) engine control cables, plumbing, generator power feeder cables, microwave guide conduits, and other items had to be cut, cut out, or damaged so that it would take more than 30 days to re enable the aircraft. Everytime it gets moved, the Pentagon has to get the request, send it to Moscow, wait for verification, then authorize the move for displays, airshows, etc. have that location verified by satellite, and the same horse poop in reverse. The field has a 14.5 million gallon water tower very near where the 52 is kept @ KPAE to supply Luditeville, er, Mukilteo with water, I still think the County is missing a great chance to pull someones leg via satellite by painting a big eyeball on the top

The aft fuselage is C-135 as is the right wing which is probably bleached out aluminum paint, not painted white, and I agree the camoflaged wings appear to be of F-111 variety

[Andy Marden]

The following were present at Stockbridge in September 2007:
59-2574 Boeing B-52G on pole, rear fuselage on ground
56-0525 Lockheed C-130A upside down on pole, no tail
60-0338 Boeing KC-135Q rear fuselage, wings
70-15942? Bell AH-1S
The rest of the KC-135 is at the second site in Newport.
Regards,
Andy Marden

USA Military Out of Service

[mrhenniger]

I have this location in the Locator...

http://www.aerialvisuals.ca/LocationDos ... erial=3208

Mike

[Nathan]

Maybe someone could give them an idea that they should donate the parts to Geneseo!