STORCH
Tue Jul 01, 2008 4:46 pm
This is not a fly by he stopped the airplane and hovered for a bit!!!!
Tue Jul 01, 2008 5:13 pm
I haven't heard much negative feedback about this last fly day so I assume it went better or nobody showed up. I didn't drag my lazy a$$ out of bed until almost 11:00 so I didn't even consider trying to make it.
Tue Jul 01, 2008 9:29 pm
Speaking of Storchs, in the '70s Sky Manor Airport in Pittstown, NJ was a haven for Storchs (at least some were Nord-built). Anyone have any idea of what happened to these?
My comments
Tue Jul 01, 2008 11:16 pm
Ok now a couple of comments on this Storch post.
While at Air Heritage I worked on David Tallichet MS 500/Fi 156 for over a year or so. So I learned a thing or two about the airplane.
On the first picture of the post, I noticed that there are no fuel quantity indicators on the bottom of the wings. Also I did not see the rubber fuel hose’s that hang off the trailing edge of the wing and allow the wings to be folded without messing with the fuel system. So I wonder if this Storch wings can be folded at all.
On the second picture I did see the rifle type pilot tube along with the tear drop landing light. Also it appears that the pilot has a little flap in for the take off as the ailerons seem to be drooping a little.
On the slow pass third picture of the post, it seems that there is a pretty good head wind if the pilot can bring the airplane to a hover with no flaps. If I member right that would be around 30 to 35 mph, with the flaps down the head wind required would be around 20 to 25.
We laid out one wing and put the flap and aileron on and connected all the torque tubes to see how the flaps would interact with the ailerons. With the flaps in the up position the ailerons would act in the normal way. But with the flaps down the ailerons would droop down. When we operated the aileron torque tube what happen was very interesting, With full aileron input the aileron would only move to the neutral position with the wing from the drooped position. With full input in the other direction the aileron would go below its drooped position.
So with the flaps down only one aileron would input the airplanes attitude with the other in a neutral position with the wing. The wing is full of torque tubes and bell cranks that interconnect the flap and the aileron. There are no cables in the wings only torque tubes.
But it’s a great looking airplane and the people who did the work are most special in their skills and their love of the airplane as do I. It was some airplane, a really big airplane for a two seat, with a pretty big engine to boot.
I can also make a post about the Carlson Aircraft Company 2/3 thirds Storch if anyone would like.
While at Air Heritage I worked on David Tallichet MS 500/Fi 156 for over a year or so. So I learned a thing or two about the airplane.
On the first picture of the post, I noticed that there are no fuel quantity indicators on the bottom of the wings. Also I did not see the rubber fuel hose’s that hang off the trailing edge of the wing and allow the wings to be folded without messing with the fuel system. So I wonder if this Storch wings can be folded at all.
On the second picture I did see the rifle type pilot tube along with the tear drop landing light. Also it appears that the pilot has a little flap in for the take off as the ailerons seem to be drooping a little.
On the slow pass third picture of the post, it seems that there is a pretty good head wind if the pilot can bring the airplane to a hover with no flaps. If I member right that would be around 30 to 35 mph, with the flaps down the head wind required would be around 20 to 25.
We laid out one wing and put the flap and aileron on and connected all the torque tubes to see how the flaps would interact with the ailerons. With the flaps in the up position the ailerons would act in the normal way. But with the flaps down the ailerons would droop down. When we operated the aileron torque tube what happen was very interesting, With full aileron input the aileron would only move to the neutral position with the wing from the drooped position. With full input in the other direction the aileron would go below its drooped position.
So with the flaps down only one aileron would input the airplanes attitude with the other in a neutral position with the wing. The wing is full of torque tubes and bell cranks that interconnect the flap and the aileron. There are no cables in the wings only torque tubes.
But it’s a great looking airplane and the people who did the work are most special in their skills and their love of the airplane as do I. It was some airplane, a really big airplane for a two seat, with a pretty big engine to boot.
I can also make a post about the Carlson Aircraft Company 2/3 thirds Storch if anyone would like.
Wed Jul 02, 2008 4:39 am
I can also make a post about the Carlson Aircraft Company 2/3 thirds Storch if anyone would like.
Yes please
Wed Jul 02, 2008 8:21 am
262crew... Thanks for the shots.
I enjoyed the "Hover" pic. I remember seeing a Storch (Collings?) do that at an airshow here in (Sussex) NJ once. It was very cool to see.
I enjoyed the "Hover" pic. I remember seeing a Storch (Collings?) do that at an airshow here in (Sussex) NJ once. It was very cool to see.
Wed Jul 02, 2008 8:48 am
No prob. TAdan
uh1h430
Lets not split hairs and atoms over RARE FLYING aircraft
uh1h430
Lets not split hairs and atoms over RARE FLYING aircraft
Wed Jul 02, 2008 9:35 am
Rich,
Neat photos. They are Moraine-Saulniers not not Nords. Who knew PA was such a Storch hub.
No idea on the first or second airplanes, but third plane is F-BJQA now in Europe somewhere and the last one is N57962 now at Planes of Fame.
JIm
Neat photos. They are Moraine-Saulniers not not Nords. Who knew PA was such a Storch hub.
No idea on the first or second airplanes, but third plane is F-BJQA now in Europe somewhere and the last one is N57962 now at Planes of Fame.
JIm
Wed Jul 02, 2008 10:01 am
Thanks Jim, it's NJ not PA by the way. Not far from Trenton, NJ. So, both that you ID'd are not Fiesler-built, do you think that either of the others could have been, or are they too rare to have been found in the US in the 1970s?
Rich
Rich
Wed Jul 02, 2008 11:28 am
Yes, it was blowing about 20 with gusts to 24-25 @ the time of the demo last Saturday.
The thing that struck me was the 300 horse Argus engine sounded for all the world like a WRIGHT J-5, you could almost hear the pistons going up and down in that rolling clatterlike rumble that a 975 has-
uh1h430,
stop counting threads in the fabric, we have enough boresighted laserbeam riders here already
The thing that struck me was the 300 horse Argus engine sounded for all the world like a WRIGHT J-5, you could almost hear the pistons going up and down in that rolling clatterlike rumble that a 975 has-
uh1h430,
stop counting threads in the fabric, we have enough boresighted laserbeam riders here already