Planes on sticks question
Wed Jun 25, 2008 11:26 pm
Hi everyone,
I'm just curious about how putting an airplane on a stick effects its overall structural condition.
Obviously putting an airplane on perminent display outdoors effects its condition due to weather, but for the average plane on a stick how do the attachment points effect the serviceability of an airframe? Does putting an airplane on a stick usually cause irreversable damage to it, or is the mounting of an airplane onto a stick typically done in a way that causes no major harm to the airframe?
Are there any examples of stick planes that are now flying again?
Cheers,
David McIntosh
I'm just curious about how putting an airplane on a stick effects its overall structural condition.
Obviously putting an airplane on perminent display outdoors effects its condition due to weather, but for the average plane on a stick how do the attachment points effect the serviceability of an airframe? Does putting an airplane on a stick usually cause irreversable damage to it, or is the mounting of an airplane onto a stick typically done in a way that causes no major harm to the airframe?
Are there any examples of stick planes that are now flying again?
Cheers,
David McIntosh
Hun Hunter
Wed Jun 25, 2008 11:53 pm
According to the registry, Hun Hunter XVI did just that; it was displayed in Brazil for 17 years in Recife.
picture by Tulio
picture by Tulio
Thu Jun 26, 2008 12:29 am
the Canadian Warplanes Lancaster was on a pole for many years. The group that put it there thought it out and used the jack points so no airframe damage occured.
Thu Jun 26, 2008 7:51 am
yes, but there are those that look like the aircraft was stuck on a stick like a bug on a pin...I too sometimes wonder if anyone did any precise engineering for a display like that.
Thu Jun 26, 2008 12:45 pm
Dave et al--
This does, indeed, usually depend on the method used to mount an airframe. For instance, a goodly section of "backbone" had to be cut out of the Lancasters that went onto concrete pylons in Toronto and Windsor; conversely, as has been noted above, FM213 at Goderich was mounted on not one pylon but three poles...at the jacking points. Thus it is now that one that is flying today as C-GVRA (and celebrates her 20th anniversary flying with CWH this September). The Toronto Lanc, though not intended to fly again anyway, now has a replacement structural member cannibalized from a former range-target Lanc hulk out west...the piece looked like Swiss cheese when recovered, but it's better than nothing for holding FM104 together once she's assembled and on her wheels.
Neat shot of the P-47 in Brazil. That, too, looks as though the swoopy Buck-Rogers-looking "pylon" is holding the Jug up at jacking points.
S.
This does, indeed, usually depend on the method used to mount an airframe. For instance, a goodly section of "backbone" had to be cut out of the Lancasters that went onto concrete pylons in Toronto and Windsor; conversely, as has been noted above, FM213 at Goderich was mounted on not one pylon but three poles...at the jacking points. Thus it is now that one that is flying today as C-GVRA (and celebrates her 20th anniversary flying with CWH this September). The Toronto Lanc, though not intended to fly again anyway, now has a replacement structural member cannibalized from a former range-target Lanc hulk out west...the piece looked like Swiss cheese when recovered, but it's better than nothing for holding FM104 together once she's assembled and on her wheels.
Neat shot of the P-47 in Brazil. That, too, looks as though the swoopy Buck-Rogers-looking "pylon" is holding the Jug up at jacking points.
S.
lancaster on sticks
Thu Jun 26, 2008 1:41 pm
Steve.
Dont forget the lancaster at Calgary was also on the pedestal. Interestingly the city of windsor contact calgary to see how they mounted their lanc and ended up mounting 212 the same way.
Dont forget the lancaster at Calgary was also on the pedestal. Interestingly the city of windsor contact calgary to see how they mounted their lanc and ended up mounting 212 the same way.