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Few old pics...

Tue Jun 24, 2008 2:04 am

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Tue Jun 24, 2008 8:39 am

Great old pictures Ken, I like the one of the seaman standing between the starboard wing and the Hughe Rotating Pro....looks Exxxxtremely dangeous...gave me cold chills

Tue Jun 24, 2008 11:24 am

Gotta love em, Ken! The Corsair has to be the Premium example of American Production. Let's face it, Vought continued to produce it until 1949. Only WWII fighter still in production after the War!

Tue Jun 24, 2008 11:27 am

Gary, I knew a B-24 pilot that told me there was a lot of servicemen killed by prop's, he witnessed one of his own crew in a rush to get in the air, he said he just ran right in to it.He said he was yelling at the top of his lungs but he just did not hear him.

Tue Jun 24, 2008 11:34 am

Couple more..
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Tue Jun 24, 2008 11:52 am

Yeah, about once a year you hear about some dim bulb who gets out of a CESSNA 337 and clambers through the wing strut and landing gear and right into the turning rear prop.
Darwin remains as an active player-

Tue Jun 24, 2008 11:59 am

Yeah, I am not afraid of a lot of things...I would put a turning prop in that category...second chances are most unlikely. these are great old pictures 8)

Tue Jun 24, 2008 12:14 pm

You really got to have your head clear on the flight line ,when I was a line supervisor for Butler I always stressed that (especially) when giving a GPU start.I seen a lineman come two feet from a MU-2 once, he got the disconnect signal from the pilot and started running for the cart cable, that aircraft at idle will make Your brain not function right ,somebody was looking out for him that day.

Tue Jun 24, 2008 6:59 pm

I'll agree about the MU-2 at idle. It's almost nauseating, especially if you didn't grab hearing protection.

Wed Jun 25, 2008 12:18 pm

Been close to aircraft for more than 10 years and I am still freaked out by turning props.

Luckily, never had the infortune of witnessing an accident and whish I never have to.

It's my first warning when I brief newbies before a ride: If you have to leave the aircraft in a hurry, always run towards the back, never the front ! Fortunately, my aircraft configuration makes it difficult to run forward but you never know.

And then I tell them to never, ever touch aircraft propellers...

Wed Jun 25, 2008 2:49 pm

Walking around a C-130, our habit is to never walk through the prop arc even on a static bird - you draw criticism if you do. The side exits on the C-130 changed around 1984 or so. Used to be you went out the hatch and ran aft, behind the props. The 85's and up have the hatches forward of the props, so now you run forward. I always brief this to new crewmembers and riders, particularly those that I know come from units with older airplanes. Sometimes they look at me like I'm being a Grandma, but I sleep better knowing I mentioned the difference. Human reactions under stress are very predictable -- they're usually wrong!! :D

Ken

Wed Jun 25, 2008 4:48 pm

Some test A/C in CA.
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Wed Jun 25, 2008 5:24 pm

Nice pics as always.

At Air Wisconsin, it was one of the few items that'd get you fired with no chance of a Union Appeal - walking through the prop arc of a static Do-328. As the props don't have brakes on them, you could get smacked pretty hard with them if the wind picked up at the wrong time from the wrong direction and ZW was quite well aware of that as the 328's were inherited from Lone Star Airlines and the Chief Pilot at LSA stayed on and developed all of ZW's safety procedures around the 328 and eventually the entire fleet.

It took a long time for me to get used to walking through the arcs of some airplanes because it was literally the only real way to get to the cockpit or fuel caps (BE-99 configured for cargo comes to mind as do the Cessna 402s and Piper Navajos). I'm still a bit leery when doing it and only cross into the arc of a static aircraft if I absolutely have to and only when I can garuntee that the switches are all definitely OFF.

Wed Jun 25, 2008 5:24 pm

Awesome pics man. I love the early model Corsairs.

Wed Jun 25, 2008 5:34 pm

Cool pics! Are those frame captures from a DVD?

SN
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