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Sun May 18, 2008 2:59 pm
My dad is flying all of the test hops for Midwest Texans' Signature Restorations. Friday afternoon, I went up with him so we could break the new engine in. It was great to be able to drone around in such a gorgeous new restoration. The airplane's first flight was Thursday, so on Friday and Saturday dad and I took the task of breaking the engine in and testing out all of the in-flight aspects of the new restoration. It's a tough job, but someone's gotta do it!
Enjoy!
Sittin' Pretty...
3259G
Checking out some tail...
The Best Airplane Manufacturer!
The Front Office...
The Office Desk...
The Taxi-Out...
Turning and not really burning...
My Office...
West-Bound...
The Break...
Base...
That was how I spent my Friday afternoon! It's a rough life isn't it?
Check in later for some Air-To-Air shots of this beauty!!!
Trey
Sun May 18, 2008 3:20 pm
Wow!! IT is awesome looking.
Sun May 18, 2008 3:51 pm
Trey, in the military T-6 training included lot's of spins and recoveries. This one has got a label that says "Intentional Spinning Prohibited". Why is that? There is nothing in the T-6 Pilot Manual against spins. Is this really a well disguised Cessna? Either way it looks pretty nice, you'd have to put on clean clothes just to get in it.
Frankly, I think it is for the most part the UNINTENTIONAL Spin that is more likely to scare or even kill you. It ought to prohibit them.
Sun May 18, 2008 4:01 pm
You can actually spin alot of Cessnas. THe Pipers, you could not.
Sun May 18, 2008 4:10 pm
Bill Greenwood wrote:Trey, in the military T-6 training included lot's of spins and recoveries. This one has got a label that says "Intentional Spinning Prohibited". Why is that? There is nothing in the T-6 Pilot Manual against spins. Is this really a well disguised Cessna? Either way it looks pretty nice, you'd have to put on clean clothes just to get in it.
Frankly, I think it is for the most part the UNINTENTIONAL Spin that is more likely to scare or even kill you. It ought to prohibit them.
Required placard, per FAA.
Sun May 18, 2008 4:31 pm
A freind of mine said his couldn't be spun because without the old heavey radios the CG was different. He didn't want to add ballast just to do spins.
Norm
Sun May 18, 2008 4:36 pm
I cant here you...some guy was out flying one of those noisy darn t-6's flying around....

it would be extra cool to fly with your dad...i never got that chance
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n5151ts on Sun May 18, 2008 8:16 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Sun May 18, 2008 7:59 pm
me jealous... want fix planes that nice...
Robbie
Sun May 18, 2008 9:13 pm
Robbie,
planes that nice don't need fix'n!!
Sun May 18, 2008 9:33 pm
Norm, I don't understand about a different CG. An airplane is tested when it is developed, and safe cg limits fore and aft are established. Within these limits you get normal and safe handling. If one takes original radios, or puts in modern instruments, etc., I think you still need to and are legally required to keep the plane in cg balance. If someone is flying a T-6 and he can't do spins because of the new or altered cg; that sounds scary. It sounds like he has exceeded the aft limit therefore it might not recover from stalls as well, and how about recovery from an accidental spin? It doesn't seem like a plane I'd like to do acro in. I may be missing something here.
Sun May 18, 2008 9:46 pm
I'm not sure, but that was his reason for not spinning the plane. He did loops, rolls, chandels and split s's and I was too dumb to worry about accidental spins.
Norm
Mon May 19, 2008 8:55 am
Bill Greenwood wrote:Trey, in the military T-6 training included lot's of spins and recoveries. This one has got a label that says "Intentional Spinning Prohibited". Why is that?
It is required by the FAA Type Certificate Data Sheet. TCDS A-2-575, Note 4(c): Placard both cockpits, "Intentional Spinning Prohibited"
This is required by the FAA to be placarded in all T-6 aircraft type certificated in the standard category.
Mon May 19, 2008 5:36 pm
I believe the "no spin" placard came about because the T-6G has a C of G that is farther back than the earlier birds because of all the radios. I used to fly a T-6G that had the original radios all installed. when I took them out and weighed the bird, we found that the CofG was WAY aft of where it should have been. Aft of the aft limit in fact. Figured there was something amiss since this bird 3-pointed easier than any other T-6 I had flown. Have a friend who was training a new T-6 pilot in a T-6G and was spinning the plane. It went flat, as would be indicative of an aft C of G. I was also told by a very reliable source that when Bob Hoover was doing the test flying on the T-6G he had to use the anti-spin chute twice.
Hope this adds some confusion to the matter.
Fly, and spin, safe,
Glenn
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