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Wed Dec 26, 2007 8:24 pm
Nicely put together with some 38 footage I had not seen before.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mg_BXFKz9_A&feature=related
Shay
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Semper Fortis
Thu Dec 27, 2007 12:05 am
Neat footage. At 6:11 minutes into the video there is a close-up of a P-38 taking off and you can see the steel runway matting buckling like a wave ahead of the main gear. It very interesting and I didn't know that that was a common occurrence.
Jerry
Thu Dec 27, 2007 1:21 am
Beautiful footage! I could really do without the music, though. It detracts from the mood.
Thu Dec 27, 2007 11:08 am
Jerry O'Neill wrote:Neat footage. At 6:11 minutes into the video there is a close-up of a P-38 taking off and you can see the steel runway matting buckling like a wave ahead of the main gear. It very interesting and I didn't know that that was a common occurrence.
Jerry
Holy Smokes!
Thu Dec 27, 2007 12:48 pm
Sorry Matt...I couldn't disagree more. The music, IMHO, adds a great deal to the mood. Try it with the sound off. It's just pictures. With the sound on, it's an adventure.
Is there any way to transfer it to a DVD or somehow make it viewable on my big screen telly?
LOVERLY...LOVERLY...LOVERLY
Mudge the P-38 freak
Thu Dec 27, 2007 2:15 pm
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Jack Frost on Thu Dec 27, 2007 2:38 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Thu Dec 27, 2007 2:29 pm
I'm with Mudge on this one. The music I think adds a great feeling of risk and importance to the footage.
If you just listen to the footage in it's original format you would just hear, in most of the training film cases some narrator talking or in the cases of the pilot-made and gun camera footage you wouldn't hear anything at all.
So I don't think you're missing much this way. Gotta remember all the Military Channel (or History or which ever channel) shows dub sounds to all the vintage film. You're not really hearing the actual engines running or guns firing. It's even worse when you see footage of say P-40 Warhawk but hear the engine sound or a Rolls Royce Merlin.
Just goes to show that people who make airplane movies aren't always airplane people.
Back to a the film. It's interesting to note at 3 mins 29 sec. There's atleast 1 maybe 2 (camera ship) P-38s flying in formation with Vought Corsairs.
Shay
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Semper Fortis
Thu Dec 27, 2007 2:50 pm
I am making an assumption here, so I am sure I will be corrected shortly if I am wrong, but the first flight and crash sequence is of the XP-38, yes?
IIRC, the USAAC insisted on a fast cross-country flight before the 1st phase of flighttesting was completed (February 11, 1939) to garner publicity. The resulting crash set-back the P38 program about a year.
(I believe my source for that information is Martin Caidin's "Fork Tail Devil: The P38". But would have to dig out the book and look it up to be sure.)
I would appreciate if anyone has more specific details about the crash and can cite their sources, please & thank-you.
John, the very amateur researcher (with apologies to Mudge).
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