Public noise study meeting at Willow Run

[jaybird]

For any of you Michiganites that would like to voice your opinion on how they should amplify the sweet sounds of Merlins, Allisons, and radials at the airport!

(link from landings.com)

http://www.bellevilleview.com/stories/1 ... 9006.shtml

[mustangdriver]

Lesson #1--Don't buy a house at the end of a f*&k'in runway and then complain about airplane noise. In the helicopter business I deal with idiots like this day in and day out.

[chico]

For any of you Michiganites that would like to voice your opinion on how they should amplify the sweet sounds of Merlins, Allisons, and radials at the airport!

(link from landings.com)

http://www.bellevilleview.com/stories/1 ... 9006.shtml

I might have to check this out. All of the Yankee A/C pass over my house pretty regularly. I'd hate to have that stop.

Now if I could just get more radials flying over, and less of those 747's from Detroit Metro.....

[Tinker51]

Lesson #1--Don't buy a house at the end of a f*&k'in runway and then complain about airplane noise. In the helicopter business I deal with idiots like this day in and day out.

Oh there you go injecting logical thought into the public arena.
Don't you know you are supposed to buy the house cheap because it is off the end of a f*&k'in runway then get the airport closed.

I was attending a local meeting one time about our airport and reading the outright lies the opposition was printing while waiting for the meeting to start. This lady in front of me turns around in here seat and says to me in a very abrasive tone of voice "for or against the airport?" She started in about how her house has not appreciated in value because of it's proximity to the airport. I asked her when she bought the house and she said they bought it twenty years ago. I told here I would buy her house right here and now for $50,000 more than she paid for it 20 years ago. She started mumbling and grousing that the house was worth way more than that. I told her then that clearly her house value was not impacted by the airport. Strange, she didn't talk to me anymore.

[mustangdriver]

Just have the airport taken down so that you can name a park after your wife. Oh wait, Chicago already did that.

[Owen Miller]

We've seen it in Oceana, and now it begins to stir in Pensacola
as rich ignorant yankees build million dollar homes just off the
airfields that have been there for generations. I don't know
what's worse the arrogant asses that buy, or the greedy real
estate agents that fuel it.

Wait, yes I do, the greedy agents are worse. The buyers are
new to the area and may really be that stupid. The agents know
and want the quick $$$$$$$

[mrhenniger]

We've seen it in Oceana, and now it begins to stir in Pensacola
as rich ignorant yankees build million dollar homes just off the
airfields that have been there for generations. I don't know
what's worse the arrogant asses that buy, or the greedy real
estate agents that fuel it.

Wait, yes I do, the greedy agents are worse. The buyers are
new to the area and may really be that stupid. The agents know
and want the quick $$$$$$$

Don't hold back! Tell us what you REALLY think.

Mike

[Obergrafeter]

If you really want to know whos' fault it is, its' the YANKEE real estate agents. Cover all your bases with one shot. Besides its the Yankees having trouble with the yankee air force planes making all the noise in Michigan. Not a southern problem. Let em sort it out among themselves and us southern boys can go in there and pick up the pieces.

[FG1D Pilot]

If you really want to know whos' fault it is, its' the YANKEE real estate agents. Cover all your bases with one shot. Besides its the Yankees having trouble with the yankee air force planes making all the noise in Michigan. Not a southern problem. Let em sort it out among themselves and us southern boys can go in there and pick up the pieces.

WORD..... according to Ober

[Jack Cook]

The Nit-Whits are bitching here in Salem also. One person thought city officials stupid for building the airport in the middle of town! In 1928 town was about 3 miles NW
The same issues in Woodburn years ago. They closed the airport down because of noise and sold the property specially for NON airport related use. Well folks it's now the Woodburn Drag Strip! Much quieter I'm sure

[RyanShort1]

Funny thing is that the cities tend to migrate TOWARDS the airport - then turn on that that helped them out.

Ryan

[Forgotten Field]

We'll send the real estate developers, lawyers, accountants, politicians, aberrant priests who molest boys and anybody who offends home-lovin' Americans to fight in gladiatorial combat.

Problem is that people ran out of the cities and built cities in the suburbs. 1/2 acre of grass around a house is still a city in my opinion. And you can't blame the Yankees. You Southerner's sent all your economically challenged African Americans up here, and they are still economically challenged and impacting the quality of life in the city; this continually leads people to move out and whack up more farmland for "townhouses in the mid-500's" with names like "Cannonshire" (built on Delaware's only Revolutionary War Battlefield) and all the strip malls built at Manassas (that's in the vicinity of Bull Run for you Southern people who can't name battles right). It's not just about airports, either. It's about the environment, wildlife, and open space. It's going away because of the greed of people and our national and local leadership which still enforces cultures not getting along and allows resources to be squandered ( like airports ) in the name of the almighty dollar.

[RareBear]

I don't recall us here in the South having to "send" anyone anywhere. Those "economically-challenged" folks you mentioned probably went up north to fill the vacuum left by all the Yankees coming down South.

There's an old saying down here (don't know exactly how old) that goes:

"If you don't like it in the South, Delta is ready when you are"


Walt

[T33driver]

So back on topic, what do the noise complainers near Willow Run want, short of shutting down the airport and turning it into a petting zoo? It's interesting there's a residential development within a mile and almost directly under the departure end of our west runway that was built in the last 20 years or so. The airport has been there since the 1930s for sure. Interestingly enough the houses are also in the hundreds of yards from a six lane interstate highway which makes a significant, constant racket so I say they win the daily double for stupidity in their choice of neighborhoods. When I flew in the AF Reserve out of Dobbins ARB in Marietta GA, I was astounded at the number of McMansions within a few miles of the departure end of runway 29. At the time, Dobbins hosted a C-130 squadron, a Cobra squadron, two Hornet squadrons, a Blackhawk Company, plus the Lockheed-Martin factory with their flight testing. Like most places, Dobbins used to be out in the sticks.

[bdk]

Problem is that people ran out of the cities and built cities in the suburbs. 1/2 acre of grass around a house is still a city in my opinion...this continually leads people to move out and whack up more farmland for "townhouses in the mid-500's" with names like "Cannonshire" (built on Delaware's only Revolutionary War Battlefield) and all the strip malls built at Manassas (that's in the vicinity of Bull Run for you Southern people who can't name battles right). It's not just about airports, either. It's about the environment, wildlife, and open space. It's going away because of the greed of people and our national and local leadership which still enforces cultures not getting along and allows resources to be squandered ( like airports ) in the name of the almighty dollar.

Didn't the Indians say just about the same thing after their land was taken?

As long as the population keeps increasing this will be a problem. It isn't just that people are migrating to live adjacent to the airport. People are encroaching on open spaces everywhere. Get used to it...

Chino airport is slowly being surrounded by houses on what was traditionally dairy land. But then again it isn't just the airport in jeapordy, it is all open spaces in the entire county. Where you need to do your due diligence is in city planning meetings where these projects go to get approved BEFORE the houses are built. Don't blame developers and real estate agents when it is your own elected and appointed city officials that approved these plans in the first place. Someone will build and sell these crackerboxes, but only if they get a permit!