FW-190/JU-88 Mistel
Wed Oct 31, 2007 9:56 am
MISTEL=NUTS
Wed Oct 31, 2007 10:45 am
Why don't we put the Buchon/Messerschmitt on top of the C-46 at Midland since it's Halloween and call it a FrankenMistel? I just bet we get sponsors coming out of the woodwork then!!! 
Scott
Scott
Wed Oct 31, 2007 11:22 am
Image look familiar... National Archives?
Have to admit......
Wed Oct 31, 2007 11:33 am
Have to admit......
Must have taken a lot of balls ( or no brains ) to take off in one of those
Handling must have been somewhat of a challenge also
Michel
Must have taken a lot of balls ( or no brains ) to take off in one of those
Handling must have been somewhat of a challenge also
Michel
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Wed Oct 31, 2007 11:57 am
Image look familiar... National Archives?
si
Wed Oct 31, 2007 1:58 pm
Seems odd that the gear would be down on the FW-190????
Wed Oct 31, 2007 3:38 pm
bdk wrote:Seems odd that the gear would be down on the FW-190????
Forget the gear, How do you get there from Here?
Its a long way up there.
Rich
Wed Oct 31, 2007 8:54 pm
F1G pilot and I knew a gentleman who flew a Mistel in the war. One of only a handfull that survived the war. According to him it was a technical break through and flew fairly well, although the outcome of his last flight was less than favorable. The mans name was Werner Seitz and there have been several articles written about him and at least one painting.
Wed Oct 31, 2007 9:07 pm
So the top guy would ride piggy-pack until they got, say, in over Brittain and then save all that gas ?????
Weird contraption, to be sure... Quite incredible all the things the Germans tried out during WWII. They were often quite advanced !
Fortunately their big boss was who he was otherwise, they could have done it...
Imagine the different history we would have all have then ! Gulp !
Weird contraption, to be sure... Quite incredible all the things the Germans tried out during WWII. They were often quite advanced !
Fortunately their big boss was who he was otherwise, they could have done it...
Imagine the different history we would have all have then ! Gulp !
Wed Oct 31, 2007 10:21 pm
Obergrafeter wrote:F1G pilot and I knew a gentleman who flew a Mistel in the war. One of only a handfull that survived the war. According to him it was a technical break through and flew fairly well, although the outcome of his last flight was less than favorable. The mans name was Werner Seitz and there have been several articles written about him and at least one painting.
He must have had some amazing stories to tell
The mistel never operated out of Germany I think, mainly used aginst bridges on the Oder
Wed Oct 31, 2007 11:43 pm
Michel C-GNCJ wrote:So the top guy would ride piggy-pack until they got, say, in over Brittain and then save all that gas ?????
Weird contraption, to be sure... Quite incredible all the things the Germans tried out during WWII. They were often quite advanced !
Fortunately their big boss was who he was otherwise, they could have done it...
Imagine the different history we would have all have then ! Gulp !
No, both the explosive laden bomber and fighter would have engines running, targets were relatively near the front. Quite a few also had the nose of the bomber replaced with a warhead.
Dave
Thu Nov 01, 2007 6:21 am
The one in the picture must have been a training unit as it had no warhead. The Ju-88 portion was not for range but for a weapon as the remaining fuel plus the warhead made quite a bang. Werners last mission (out of Penamunde) was to destroy power plants to the East, but when a P-39 shot out his oil cooler he launched the weapon against a Soviet tank column. The warhead portion had a sort of computer guidence (think early shoot and forget) and the theory was to return in the fighter portion. All flights were with the gear on the fighter down, but I never did get a chance to ask Werner why.
Thu Nov 01, 2007 8:47 am
The combat warhead was a shaped charge that completely replaced the cockpit section of the '88.
Standard bombers were also used with appropriate bomb loads, and I agree that the one in the photo was probably a trainer. Somewhere I have some pics of the combo in flight with the fighter's gear retracted. (I think? )
This is one way to saddle up:
Here is another combination using a '109 and a DFS 230. How would you like to be assigned to that duty!
Scott
Standard bombers were also used with appropriate bomb loads, and I agree that the one in the photo was probably a trainer. Somewhere I have some pics of the combo in flight with the fighter's gear retracted. (I think?
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This is one way to saddle up:
Here is another combination using a '109 and a DFS 230. How would you like to be assigned to that duty!
Scott
Fri Nov 09, 2007 9:01 am
Obergrafeter wrote:F1G pilot and I knew a gentleman who flew a Mistel in the war. One of only a handfull that survived the war. According to him it was a technical break through and flew fairly well, although the outcome of his last flight was less than favorable. The mans name was Werner Seitz and there have been several articles written about him and at least one painting.
Ober, wasn't he the last of the Mistel drivers??
Lynn
Fri Nov 09, 2007 5:02 pm
And here's another Mistel combo - note there's another one in the background
Enjoy the Day! Mark
Enjoy the Day! Mark