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The Vulcan Lives !!!

Mon Oct 15, 2007 2:51 am

The Vulcan has moved under it's own power....
Touch wood it wont be long till she flies :)

Mon Oct 15, 2007 3:35 am

:D :D :D :D :D
Fingers crossed for luck...

Mon Oct 15, 2007 6:06 am

Could that bird in full flight, make U2s album Rattle and Hum be compared to a mouse squealling :)

Mon Oct 15, 2007 6:10 am

:D
Any pictures?
Please...
:D

Mon Oct 15, 2007 12:26 pm

HGUCSU wrote:

Could that bird in full flight, make U2s album Rattle and Hum be compared to a mouse squealling


Would you 'splain that please.

Mudge the confused :?

Mon Oct 15, 2007 12:31 pm

ww2John wrote::D
Any pictures?
Please...
:D


Can do even better

http://www.tvoc.co.uk/imagegallery/gall ... %20Go!.wmv (for some reason when I submit the post the link is not working properly for this vid, if you type !.wmv when the explorer opens up it should work.)

http://www.tvoc.co.uk/imagegallery/gall ... 20Walk.wmv

http://www.tvoc.co.uk/imagegallery/gall ... %20Run.wmv

Mon Oct 15, 2007 3:17 pm

WOWwwwwwwwwwwwwweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee it is alive and moving

That is unreal great effort by you poms across the pond.

Only few weeks ago she was in parts and hnager.. Excellent bravo!!!

Mon Oct 15, 2007 3:46 pm

And I seem to remember a few months ago inquiring as to why we couldnt get a B-47 flying like the Vulcan :? :roll: and was told that their was no Flying Vulcan nore was their to be ! :roll: I sure am glad to see that they at least have one taxing ! :shock: Awesome cant wait to see her fly again Well done guys ! 8)

Mon Oct 15, 2007 4:06 pm

I believe there are three Vulcans that can taxi under there own power including XH558.

The others are:

XM655 and XL426.

There is also a couple of Victors which also move under there own power.

XH558 will be the only one that is allowed to get off the ground.

Mon Oct 15, 2007 4:09 pm

Glen, the main reason you won't see a B-47 is that the NMUSAF and the DoD don't want you to see one.

The British MoD has a copletely different mindset on this type of thing and relies on the CAA to control what flys in the UK skies.

In the US the FAA doesn't seem to care what we fly as long as the rules are followed and the operating limitations written for the particular aircraft are complied with. DoD goes the extra mile and prohibits the release of certain types, making it difficult at best, for the individual or group to return certain types aircraft to operational status.

Mon Oct 15, 2007 5:35 pm

Yes it is the fault of that evil NMUSAF. We don't want anyone to ever see a B-47. We are in the process of intstalling a big curtain in the cold war Hangar so that you can't see the one that has been restored there. :roll:

Mon Oct 15, 2007 6:08 pm

Now Mustangdriver, you must read ALL of the posts, I was referring to the statement made by Glen. Key word: flying
Glen:
And I seem to remember a few months ago inquiring as to why we couldnt get a B-47 flying like the Vulcan


Your right though, the stuffed one ya'll have is pretty nice. :D

Mon Oct 15, 2007 6:58 pm

Stuffed? wow! :roll: I also think a problem with the B-47 is that there just are no good candidates around to fly. Besides the ones that are in museums already and static, I don't know of any unclaimed restoration projects. I thought I once heard a rumor of a private owned one, but I just dismissed it as such. Is there a private one? Who owns the Vulcan? Where is it hangared. It is a big undertaking getting this thing going, and a big well done should be given to the crew.

Mon Oct 15, 2007 7:11 pm

I think that there are several B-47 airframes that would make excellent candidates for a complete and dedicated restoration to flight, given immense amounts of money and time. The example at Castle comes immediately to mind, as the last flyer. That being said, I think that the limiting factor is obviously the NMUSAF's determination that one will not fly. I seriously doubt that if a group came with major funding already in place, technical support in place, and a reasonable plan of action, that the NMUSAF would release one of the static airframes to that group for restoration to flight.

Additionally, NMUSAF is doing a nice job of quietly eliminating candidates in conjunction with Worldwide Aircraft Recovery of Nebraska. While they have done a great job of moving many historic and significant aircraft (most notably the entire SAC collection) they have performed an "engineered splice" (their term for cutting the wing in two) so that they can easily move B-47s on standard highways. The example on display at Wright-Patterson, while externally a beautiful example, has suffered this fate. While it was never going to be flown again anyway, it is a real shame that such an aircraft should have its back broken. See the pics below for the "splice." I think that such a move justifies RickH's characterization of the NMUSAF example as "stuffed." I would love to see a B-47 in the air, and would pay my $20 to an airshow to see it. Unfortunately, I think that it is never to be.

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Mon Oct 15, 2007 11:29 pm

mustangdriver wrote:Yes it is the fault of that evil NMUSAF. We don't want anyone to ever see a B-47.



Oh boy, here we go again :roll:
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