Steve Fossett missing
Tue Sep 04, 2007 1:41 pm
Tue Sep 04, 2007 2:48 pm
Yeah, I just read that too! I hope he is ok?!
Tue Sep 04, 2007 2:54 pm
He is in my prayers, hopeing for a safe outcome.
Robbie
Robbie
Tue Sep 04, 2007 3:57 pm
Check Wikipedia for updates I guess...
Tue Sep 04, 2007 4:01 pm
You've got to be kidding me...... 
Just on a whim I decided to check wiki and sure enough it's been updated. Pretty sad.
My hopes are that Steve made an expected landing and is well.
Shay
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Just on a whim I decided to check wiki and sure enough it's been updated. Pretty sad.
My hopes are that Steve made an expected landing and is well.
Shay
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Semper Fortis
Tue Sep 04, 2007 4:55 pm
Shay wrote:You've got to be kidding me......
Just on a whim I decided to check wiki and sure enough it's been updated. Pretty sad.
Ummm...Why exactly is that "sad"? That's one area (some would say one of the few areas) where wikipedia has excelled. It's a great aggregation tool for breaking news stories. I followed the Virginia tech shootings on Wikipedia. It was interesting to track the revisions, and see the picture of the events that formed.
A wiki would be a pretty useful tool for the warbirds registry. Instead of monthly updates, you could have a whole group of people picking through adding to the articles. Heck, we're using one on the internal network at Yankee to create aircraft histories, and to track the progress of some of our current restoration projects. A wiki is a lot more useful that people give them credit for.
Tue Sep 04, 2007 5:43 pm
chico wrote:Ummm...Why exactly is that "sad"?
The problem with Wiki is that anyone make changes and there is no checks and balance system. Not until someone notices the mistakes and takes action.
The another problem is that people, in what I assume is the urgent need to be the first to post the new information over the other, don't wait to find out the accurate full story. As was the case with the death Jim Leroy in July, when wiki posters went back and forth on whether survived the crash or perished in route to the hospital and the particulars of the crash.
In certain situations I think it can be tasteless, that's all.
Shay
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Tue Sep 04, 2007 6:37 pm
Shay wrote:chico wrote:Ummm...Why exactly is that "sad"?
The problem with Wiki is that anyone make changes and there is no checks and balance system. Not until someone notices the mistakes and takes action.
That's certainly an issue, but you've got to figure that with the back and forth flow of information, "good" info will win out eventually.
In certain situations I think it can be tasteless, that's all.
Shay
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I can understand that. The Fosset article at least provided more useful data than any of the major news sites.
Tue Sep 04, 2007 9:35 pm
He didn't file a flightplan. I hope a guy that's so experienced in aviation doesn't lose his life because of such a small error.
Tue Sep 04, 2007 9:59 pm
From what I have read he was going on sort on exploratory flight looking for dry lake beds. I might have been hard to file an exact flight plan, when he may have had no real plan of where he was going to be at exactly what time.
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Tue Sep 04, 2007 10:05 pm
What's the percentage of GA a/c flying VFR who need to or file a flight plane? .001% 
Tue Sep 04, 2007 10:30 pm
IMHO I NEED to file one every time I fly. But, as with everyone else, I don't always do it.
Wed Sep 05, 2007 9:39 am
Still nothing 
Wed Sep 05, 2007 9:54 am
A couple of questions here:
1. Do you need to file a flight plan in most VFR conditions? Yes
2. Do you have to file a flight plan in most VFR conditions? No
As a veteran of hundreds of hours with the CAP spent over North Georgia looking for missing aircraft, I can attest that those aircraft that filed flight plans were found a whole lot faster than those who didn't. Having a flight plan eliminates a lot of the guesswork that transpires at the beginning of a search mission. It helps ATC sort out your blip on the radar tape from the hundreds of others that may be there, too. It narrows down the search area and allow more resources to be put into the areas of highest probability.
Every CAP search sortie has a flight plan filed. That flight is monitored throughout, by the mission base OPS staff, and its arrival time back at the search base is verified and updated frequently. Any aircraft more than 10 minutes past its most recent ETA update without being heard from becomes the focus of an effort to locate it.
No, filing a flight plan is not required, but it's the smart thing to do.
Walt
1. Do you need to file a flight plan in most VFR conditions? Yes
2. Do you have to file a flight plan in most VFR conditions? No
As a veteran of hundreds of hours with the CAP spent over North Georgia looking for missing aircraft, I can attest that those aircraft that filed flight plans were found a whole lot faster than those who didn't. Having a flight plan eliminates a lot of the guesswork that transpires at the beginning of a search mission. It helps ATC sort out your blip on the radar tape from the hundreds of others that may be there, too. It narrows down the search area and allow more resources to be put into the areas of highest probability.
Every CAP search sortie has a flight plan filed. That flight is monitored throughout, by the mission base OPS staff, and its arrival time back at the search base is verified and updated frequently. Any aircraft more than 10 minutes past its most recent ETA update without being heard from becomes the focus of an effort to locate it.
No, filing a flight plan is not required, but it's the smart thing to do.
Walt
Wed Sep 05, 2007 9:59 am
You would at least have thought he would have let someone know his intentions or area he would be in.
Odd.
Odd.