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Hustlers in the bone yard pics

Fri Aug 24, 2007 1:42 pm

hello all

same clipart disc, couple more pics; I assume this is Davis-Monthan, or AMARC or whatever it was called back then?

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cheers

gv

Fri Aug 24, 2007 2:21 pm

Sad end to a really sexy airplane (and this is coming from somebody who normally thumbs his nose at kerosene burners.)

How may B-58s were built, anyway?


SN

Fri Aug 24, 2007 3:17 pm

...and they are all gone now. What a shame. :(

Fri Aug 24, 2007 3:48 pm

There are a handful in museums. Stunning when you see one in person. They just look fast. They look like there is nothing but powerplants and minimal wing/fuse to carry said units.

Here is a link to Wiki that has links to the survivors.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B-58

Search one out if you haven't before. Well worth it in my opinion.

Eric

Fri Aug 24, 2007 4:21 pm

I've only seen a couple in person..would have loved to have seen one in the air!

NMUSAF:

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And Pima:

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SN

Fri Aug 24, 2007 4:56 pm

Lone Star Flight Museum has the one that used to be in Ft Worth. Chanute Air Museum in Rantoul, IL also has one .

Fri Aug 24, 2007 6:13 pm

Rick, when I was in the front cockpit on 0668 at LSFM, the largest instrument in the panel is the fuel flow gauge. Its about 1/4 larger than the artifical horizon.

Z

Fri Aug 24, 2007 7:52 pm

Well you are feeding 4 J-79s. Lets see,... 2 J79s are burning about 20 lbs a mile. Using a nonexact correllation that would put the fuel burn around 40 lbs a mile. 40 lbs / 6.8 lbs per gal = almost 6 gallons per mile. The F-4 idles at 100 lbs per minute, I would imagine that the B-58 is doubling that also.

Makes you understand why the KC-135s are getting worn out. Without the tanker fleet there would have been hardly any mission capability.

Fri Aug 24, 2007 8:29 pm

i always wondered how the 58 dropped it's bombload with that center pod?? was it jettisoned prior to drop?? or were bombs crammed into that pod too??? i can hardly imagine little bomb bay doors on that pod!!!

Fri Aug 24, 2007 8:36 pm

tom d. friedman wrote:i always wondered how the 58 dropped it's bombload with that center pod?? was it jettisoned prior to drop?? or were bombs crammed into that pod too??? i can hardly imagine little bomb bay doors on that pod!!!


The pod was 2 parts, the lower was fuel, the upper, nukes.
What I would love to see is a video of the nose gear retracting. I have stood in the nose wheel well and figured out all the motions it had to go thru, but would like to see it in action.

Fri Aug 24, 2007 8:51 pm

At the NMUSAF they have a smallmodel that shows how the nosewheel retracts. Pretty neat. Just ask one of the volunteers.

Arty

Fri Aug 24, 2007 9:00 pm

We had the AC-47 at the Chanute air Museum airshow a couple weeks ago and I got to get up close to the record setting B-58. It is a Beautiful airplane. :D

Fri Aug 24, 2007 9:57 pm

The govt. frowns on civilians operating planes that can deliver nuclear arms to other continents.
The Yankee Air Force owns a B-52, with the understanding that they can never fly it. It would be to valuable to an aggressive nation.
I'm sure it would be the same for the B-58.
Sure, it's 40 years obsolete for us, but it would still be cutting edge for most of the world.

Fri Aug 24, 2007 10:37 pm

There's a trainer version of the B-58 at the Grissom AFB museum. Gotta get down there one of these days...

As for the flying the Yankee B-52, the last time I was up close to it (two or three years ago) the outer wings were so rotten with corrosion I'd be afraid to even move it. That's not intended as a slam at the museum, just the unfortnate and inevitable result of having to display an aircraft outside. At least she's been spared the scapper's torch!

SN

Fri Aug 24, 2007 10:42 pm

not much choice lately at Yankee Air Force, the museum burned down a few years ago!
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