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Napier Eland (& Sabre question)

Sun Aug 05, 2007 5:37 pm

Anyone know where there may be one laying about looking for a good home? Going to take a drive out to El Mirage tomorrow & ask Mark T if he has any leads, but thought I'd ask here first.
Napier Gazelle also considered.

Whatever happened to the DOZENS of sectioned Sabre's that Napiers apprentice program made & sent all over the planet to schools etc?
Edit: I know about the one at Duxford :)
& the one at National Aviation Museum in Ottawa
So thats 2.... & RR have one that isn't sectioned.
Last edited by ZRX61 on Sun Aug 05, 2007 6:50 pm, edited 1 time in total.

Sun Aug 05, 2007 6:48 pm

The RNZAF Museum at Wigram, Christchurch, have a nice sectioned Napier Sabre. A real conundrum. On the one hand, great educational tool to see the internal workings, but on the other, a rare, potentially airworthy engine is sacrificed.

Sun Aug 05, 2007 6:55 pm

mightyauster wrote:The RNZAF Museum at Wigram, Christchurch, have a nice sectioned Napier Sabre. A real conundrum. On the one hand, great educational tool to see the internal workings, but on the other, a rare, potentially airworthy engine is sacrificed.

It was the Napier apprentices who sacrificed them. That was part of the training program at Napiers. I'm about halfway thru "From Precision Into Power by Alan Vessey of the Napier Heritage Trust & there's a bit in there about the sectioning of Sabres. They sent them them all over the place for display with museums, schools, universities etc...
I used to get a migraine just looking at the Duxford one ;)
So now we know of 3 sectioned Sabres...

Theres a Sabre at the Science Museum in London, but no idea if sectioned or not?
I looked here:
http://www.enginehistory.org/aehs_list.htm#National Museum of the Air Force
Only 2 mentioned, Duxford & London

Sun Aug 05, 2007 7:11 pm

ZRX61--

A potential starting point for Elands might be to track the disposal of the RCAF CL66 Cosmoplitans' original engines, which were swapped for Allison turbines some time in the 60s (turning the Cosmos into more or less Convair 580s). I have to think one or two might have survived as training aids?

Re the Sabres, I had seen the one at Rockcliffe--spectacular looking thing--but had no idea there were a whole slew of those cutaways. What a thing to find, say, on evilBay sometime, eh...Surely there are more out there.

S.

Sun Aug 05, 2007 8:00 pm

Found a second Sabre in Canada, but it's a bit bent... "sectioned" by impact :(
http://www.cahc-ccpa.com/workshop_one.htm

Image

Sun Aug 05, 2007 9:46 pm

Found more sectioned Sabres:
Cambridge University Engineering Dept have one.
Birmingham Museum of Science & Industry has one (Listed as "Presented by Napier" so that's def one carved up by the apprentices)

The one in the London Science Museum is apparently sectioned
So now we have 6 of em:
Duxford, Cambridge, London, Birmingham, Christchurch & Rockcliffe. :)



& for some odd reason:
1064 (Honiton) Sqn ATC apparently have one: no.S1032/A257506
I imagine thats hidden in a shed someplace, no idea if it's sectioned tho?
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