what i saw this weekend

Mon Jul 30, 2007 11:40 am

Here are a couple planes I saw at Vintage Fighters in Southern Indiana, they used to have a Corsair and another Mustang there. these guys do nice work....

Mon Jul 30, 2007 11:51 am

Nice pictures.

I've been collecting pictures of roadside aircraft. Do you mind if I save that picture of the F-86 on the pole?

Cheers,
Nate

Mon Jul 30, 2007 1:21 pm

u are more than welcome to it.............

Mon Jul 30, 2007 2:21 pm

Is that Sabre an ex RAAF CAC Sabre?? It doesn't fit the bill of a fury

Chris

Mon Jul 30, 2007 2:30 pm

Looks Australian to me, with the single cannon on each side. Could be wrong though.

Mon Jul 30, 2007 2:31 pm

That's an FJ-3 Fury - note the differences in the canopy shape as well as detail differences with the fuselage.

Thanks for posting the photos!

Enjoy the Day! Mark

Tue Jul 31, 2007 6:52 am

Hi Guys,

from http://f-86.tripod.com/usa.html

A94-916? CA-27-32 Sellersburg, Clark County Airport, preserved on entrance road, reported May99, in FJ-3 colours as '136049'

I was pretty sure it was a ex-RAAF Sabre

Tue Jul 31, 2007 7:23 am

Im puttin my money on Fury. :wink:

Tue Jul 31, 2007 7:41 am

Warbird Kid wrote:Im puttin my money on Fury.

You'll loose it!

It's a Commonwealth Aircraft Corporation Sabre - the cannon port style (2 x 30mm Aden Cannon) is distinctive and unique. It's not an FJ or an H, the panel lines are appropriate to the slightly 'taller' fuselage and different engine access fuselage break that is also unique to the Commonwealth built RR Avon-engine Sabre.

Pity it's pretending to be what it's not, but that's the way it goes.

[Edited to correct calibre]

Last edited by JDK on Wed Aug 01, 2007 1:59 am, edited 1 time in total.

Tue Jul 31, 2007 7:51 am

See:
http://www.adf-serials.com/

Page:
http://www.adf-serials.com/2a94.shtml

A94-916:

A94-916 CA27-16 Mk.30 Recieved at 1 AD 20/05/55. Allocated to storage 03/06/55. To 2 OTU for Sabre Trails Flight 17/06/55. To 78 Wing 19/03/56. Modified to Mk.31 25/06/56. To CAC Avalon for mainplane repair 02/05/58. To 81 Wing 23/02/61. Crashed Williamtown 09/09/63. Crashed into swamp next to base following engine flame-out. Engine removed 12/09/63. Converted to componants in situ and unservicable remains disposed as scrap 11/10/63. A request was made to use as instructional airframe but advised not suitable on 24/10/63. This would seem to be the end of -916 however according to Warbirds Directory A94-916 was aquired by Saunders Aviation of Chino Ca. in 1990, it was then at Stallion 51 at Kissimmee Fl. in 90/92, and then to Charles Osbourne of Louisville Ky. 92/93 and under restoration.
It is now on display on a pole at Clark County Airport, Jeffersonville, Indiana, USA. It is displayed as a US Navy FJ-3 Fury

Tue Jul 31, 2007 2:33 pm

2x 30mm adens if you please JDK

but you are correct about everything else

Tue Jul 31, 2007 2:37 pm

Blast!

Good show!

Being bested, and especially on this site!

Tue Jul 31, 2007 6:49 pm

Full marks for ingenuity to whomever capitalized on the family resemblance between a CAC Sabre and an FJ-3...may not be truly that alike, but both look like F-86s, just somehow "different".

S.

Wed Aug 01, 2007 2:11 am

ausflyboy wrote:2x 30mm adens if you please JDK but you are correct about everything else

Oops.

No excuses!

Warbird Kid wrote:Being bested, and especially on this site!

I'll do you a 2 x 10mm refund.

Steve T wrote:Full marks for ingenuity to whomever capitalized on the family resemblance between a CAC Sabre and an FJ-3...may not be truly that alike, but both look like F-86s, just somehow "different".

Hmmm. That's a point, but there's little real resemblance to a Fury in the CAC Sabre - each look unlike an F-86 in their own different way. The CAC Sabre isn't hump-backed like the Fury, nor stubby, nor does it have folding wings. And, apart from the engine, intake, exhaust and armament being different... I could go on.

Just think, if it was painted as what it is, with RAAF Roo roundels, maybe someone might pause to find out what an obviously Australian aircraft is doing there - who knows, might learn something about one of America's allies, and the development of an American design by someone else. As it is, it's just misleading ("Oh, look at the Fury.") and does neither the Fury or itself any credit.

Just my opinion.

Wed Aug 01, 2007 4:59 am

Agreed

it is a pity that credit isn't given to those aussie designers who rightfully deserve it for taking a perfectly good aircraft and making it even better.

As a matter of interest 916 along with a few others was actually owned by Transcorp (Gary Camm and Lang Kidby) at Redcliffe Aerodrome prior to being sold to Saunders.