ooops

[N3Njeff]

found this on you tube, must not have been too bad.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MhaCNbRkp6k

[tom d. friedman]

back to remedial driving school!!!!

[CAPFlyer]

All I can say is - They need a new marshalling program. An airplane that big taxiing into an area that tight without wing walkers was asking for that to happen. I'm glad that it looks like they didn't do any serious damage to the plane or pole.

[Lynn Allen]

Ahh in a far away galaxy, ok it was the Hill Country, there was this guy I know real well that was parking a ah warbird and ah the driver waved to that person to say I see ya and I'm ah comin' and then taxied onto a park Val. Ya just have to watch where you are going..

Right Ober

Lynn

[muddyboots]

no women drivers jokes please









unless it's funny...

[Beachy]

[Obergrafeter]

Still have that Val wingtip on my ever growing wall of shame. Lynn can you bring your saw and hammer down to help me add wall to it. I am getting more artifacts than I have wall space after the last couple months. You heard about the mid air and King Air gear up right?
Of course you know that the Warhawk eating the Val was not the staff member (pilots') fault, but rather the air bosses fault. Don't you just love the deserts' reasoning?

[Do Do Daddy]

This video is at French Valley Airport Cailf.

[kmiles]

The flight engineer sitting atop the aircraft is supposed to be watching the wing tips. The pilot and co-pilot can not see anthing past the outboard engines during taxi. I can not tell who it was that was engineering on that flight (video not zoomed in enough) but they were not taking care of their primary responsibility during taxi.
I have never personally taxied the B-24, but Mr. Austin my be able to agree or disagree that the B-24 is one of the most, if not the most difficult to taxi with that thing they call a nose wheel. There is a reason that a lot of the B-24 ground accidents involved the nose wheel.

PS. they did not hit the pole. They shut down and used a tug to pull it back to get the room for it to get by without hitting. The bouncing is something that happens when the brakes are applied.

[Jack Cook]

that the B-24 is one of the most, if not the most difficult to taxi with that thing they call a nose wheel

Having been on the recieving end of some novice 25 drivers attempts at taxing I might disagree. The 25 brakes are massive and the pedals have no feel just a spring behind them and a delay in getting response. Push
a little hey where's my brakes push a little more and wham!! You can always tell when the new guys driving by all the jerking and jumping around. It's hell on the folks in back

[retroaviation]

Jack, I never thought this day would come, but I'm going to have to disagree with you.

Having been in the airplane with newer pilots (with me trying to hang on for dear life while standing, rather than sitting) in both the B-24 and B-25, I'd have to say that it's been my experience that the 24 gets the most bounces per taxied mile.

Either way, they both can be difficult airplanes to taxi. I'd much rather have a tailwheel in the back than a training wheel in the front. Hmmm......that gives me an idea.............

Gary

[coldaffyduck]

Gary,
I know what you are thinking, but do you really think the FAA, let alone the Staff, will let you perform that conversion?

[Lynn Allen]

Still have that Val wingtip on my ever growing wall of shame. Lynn can you bring your saw and hammer down to help me add wall to it. I am getting more artifacts than I have wall space after the last couple months. You heard about the mid air and King Air gear up right?
Of course you know that the Warhawk eating the Val was not the staff member (pilots') fault, but rather the air bosses fault. Don't you just love the deserts' reasoning?

I knew about the mid air but the King Air, the one that's based there??
Well at least some of the hearing aid's were working that day...

Lynn

[Jack Cook]

Oh Gary you've greatly underestimated some of the earlier efforts at some folks in taxing our 25. One guest from AOPA Pilot mag bounced my head up the top of the fuselage and they threw me face first onto the deck in the aft compartment. Touching the brakes on rollout with the nose wheel still in the air was also memorable event hopefully never to be repeated
But my one B-24 ride was smooth has glass in DL so I can't compare

Last edited by Jack Cook on Sun Jul 01, 2007 11:35 am, edited 1 time in total.

[retroaviation]

But my one B-24 ride was smooth has glass in DL so I can't compare

Must've been one of our more experienced "left seaters" flying that day. Some of the newer guys can sure make you say words that aren't exactly PG-13 with the way they handle the brakes.

Gary