Vulcan Bomber still flying Why not a B-47 or B-58

[Glen]

Greetings
I pose a ? for the group,and if this ? has been covered in past posting forgive me .
Why dose the United Air force not have program like the RAF Vulcan program ? Or let a private group do so ? Now this is just my view but what a way to get the message out to the public by showing where the Airforce came from and where they are going with aircraft like the B-2.
Hats off to Museum's like the CAF, Lone Star Flight Museum, Collins Foundation and so many more that have kept the War Bird's flying of WW2, Korea and Vietnam for that matter.

[Mudge]

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Or is that being too verbose?

Mudge the succinct

[fotobass]

It would indeed be schweeeet to se a Hustler on a low flyby.

[Mike]

What RAF Vulcan programme? There's no such thing.

There is no flying Vulcan anywhere on the planet. A group have been trying to restore a Vulcan to flight for over 10 years now. It has nothing to do with the RAF, is partially funded by a grant from the Heritage Lottery Fund, and has continually suffered cost over-runs and delays due to woeful underestimates of the work involved. They are into the project for well over $10m so far, and need a further $2m+ per year (which they don't have) to fly it at a (very optimistic estimate of) 10 or shows per year for the next 10 years.

That's why you don't see any privately-owned jet heavy bombers flying.

[rwdfresno]

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Come on Mudge I think they could do it for a mere
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Ryan the optimist

I think your average Hustler owner could count on Christmas cards from every FBO owner within striking range.

[Glen]

I stand Corrected I must of had a Brain Haze on the Vulcan flying with the RAF thank you that Redirect

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[Mike]

Would the Goverment even alow a group or person to attempt it ?

In the present state of US paranoia? Absolutely no way!

Just look at what happened to the 3 gutted F-14 hulks at Chino recently.

[ripcord]

It irks me to see MiG 17's , 15's etc but no F9F's, F2H's, F3H, F-11 or F-8's.

[Jerry O'Neill]

That Vulcan in the UK was taken better care of when retired than any B-47 or B-58 that is in existence. If the Vulcan is taking large amounts of cash to get up and running, I think an American counterpart would be the same if not more. The best candidates would be airframes that were retired directly to museums and placed UNDERCOVER from the very beginning.
How many of those can you count?
Jerry

[Glen]

I seem to remember back in the very early eightys their was a B-47 that was flown to a Museum It made Air Classic I remember that the Pilot had 3000 + Hrs in a B-47 They even used the JATO for take off. what bomber was this ? where did it go

[Mike]

The one that's now at Castle. It has been parked outside for the past 20 years now, so would require major work to get it airworthy again.

[Paul Krumrei]

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Or is that being too verbose?

Mudge the succinct

2nd that.

[CAPFlyer]

It irks me to see MiG 17's , 15's etc but no F9F's, F2H's, F3H, F-11 or F-8's.

Yes, but there are F-4s (USAF only), T-33s, T-38s, P-80s, F-86s, ect. flying. There is even the possibility of any USAF/USAAF aircraft flying if someone comes up with the money and the maintenance plan and gets the aircraft certified by the FAA.

The problem (again) is not the US Government denying use, it's the US Navy and the US Navy alone. The USAF has been much more ameniable to allowing its former aircraft fly in the civilian world, but the US Navy fights tooth and nail even for the lowliest trainer. No one knows why (other than their "official" proclamations), but that's the way it is.

The reason that foreign aircraft seem to be easier to obtain is because their former operators aren't holding on to them. In fact, most of their former operators are actively selling the aircraft to private owners for a price much lower than what it'd cost to get a comparable aircraft out of AMARC.

[Mike]

So how come there are T-2s, A-4s, an FJ Fury and (in the past) F9Fs flying. I'd say that the lack of USN types flying has more to do with a scarcity of available airframes than the Navy's (frankly somewhat bizarre) 'preservation' policy per se.

[N3Njeff]

I seem to remember back in the very early eightys their was a B-47 that was flown to a Museum It made Air Classic I remember that the Pilot had 3000 + Hrs in a B-47 They even used the JATO for take off. what bomber was this ? where did it go

They almost did not make it back then!