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Naval Air Museum overhead shot

Thu Sep 23, 2004 2:24 pm

I found this on the NOAA site. Some planes got moved around.

Looks like a DC-3 and E-2 lost a wing
The Privateer crashed into something
2 over from the A-26 look destroyed

Blue Angels are on the ramp. Scroll down.

http://www.ngs.noaa.gov/ivan/PHOTOS/26285634.jpg

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Anyone know how Dothan and the Army Museum made it?

Matt

Aircraft Damage

Thu Sep 23, 2004 4:04 pm

Looks like the E-1 Tracer took a hit but at least the wing is still there.

I believe the C-47 (R4D) is Que Sera Sera. Ashame she isn't inside at this point. Last time I saw her she was in desperate need of some TLC.

Could have been really bad as another person said they were real lucky this time.

I hope when the new addition is built that they bring a number of these planes inside and then maybe contruct another storage building to get as many possible aircraft under some kind of cover.

Dave C

Thu Sep 23, 2004 4:15 pm

Seems to be a possiblity. $5 Million would go a long way in that regard...
From ANN:

Damage At Naval Aviation Museum
Aircraft Caught Outside By Ivan Fared The Worst

Warbird enthusiasts have been staying up late, eyes glued to
their favorite news channel, hoping to get a glimpse of the
National Museum of Naval Aviation in Pensacola (FL). Smack in the
middle of Hurricane Ivan's sights last week, the museum's
collection of rare and mystical warbirds was, in large part, on the
flight line when the storm roared through, destroying or damaging
90-percent of the buildings at NAS Pensacola.

Good news, campers. It appears the majority of the museum's
collection was spared Ivan's wrath.

"There was minimum damage," said Vice Adm. Jack Fetterman (USN,
Ret.), who heads up the Naval Aviation Museum Foundation. "The
museum is in great shape."

Fetterman told local reporters only two of the museum's 70 or so
planes on exhibit outside the museum were damaged by Ivan. Those
inside were untouched by the storm. As for the museum itself,
Fetterman said there was some water damage near the entrance, but
that otherwise, the building came through just fine.

Even so, it appears it will be several days before the museum is
again open for business. "We could be up for visitors within a
week-and-a-half to two weeks," Fetterman said.

The worst damage done by Ivan may have been to delay a
prospective museum donor. Fetterman said the unnamed donor is on
the line for $5 million. The donor was supposed to be in Pensacola
next week. But his trip may be delayed by Ivan. If that deal does
go through, Fetterman said the museum hopes to use that money to
break ground on an expansion that will give it more than a
half-million square feet of covered space -- more than twice the
floor space found at the Smithsonian's Air and Space Museum in
Washington (DC).

"We feel confident if we can get that $5 million bump that we
will be there," Fetterman told reporters.
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Thu Sep 23, 2004 10:44 pm

What ever happened to the Coronado flying boat? If it was in the photo I couldn't recognize it from the top. Also what is the dark aircraft on the top row? I guess that's the Martin Marlin(?) flying boat to it's left. The yellow winged plane has me guessing too. The only visit I made to the museum was around 1990 and they had the outside planes tied down on the lawn at that time.

Thu Sep 23, 2004 11:35 pm

Bummer :(

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Thu Sep 23, 2004 11:49 pm

True, but that's not the correct engine for a Privateer anyway.

Maybe Ivan has given some incentive to re-mounting 1830's! :wink:

Fri Sep 24, 2004 12:08 am

The PBM is in the restoration hanger, the plane next to the P5M is The Truculent Turtle and the Yelllow Wing Aircraft looks to be the AJ-1.

Cheers RR[/quote]

Thanks. Glad to hear the Coronado is getting some attention. I thought the aircraft next to the Privateer looked rather "Neptune-ish". Do they have two versions of the Neptune or is it something else? One more looks interesting. On the bottom row the second plane from the right. Looks a bit like an Avenger but I can't tell for sure.

Fri Sep 24, 2004 8:07 am

Col. Rohr wrote:Elwyn,
It looks to be the AM-1 Mauler,
Cheers RR


The AM-1 Mauler is stored inside not outside, I have pictures of it from just a few months ago.

Fri Sep 24, 2004 8:13 am

The AJ-1 is white overall (you can see the nose of it in the Engine Picture, it has the red tip nose). Then cross reference the large photo. THe Yellow winged aircraft looks alike a A-26 to me (or what ever the Navy called it). But That is a guess, the AJ-1 I know doesn't have the yellow wings.

Fri Sep 24, 2004 7:56 pm

The yellow winged airplane definitely looks like a JD-1 Invader. Hope it still has its' nose, can't make it out in the pic.

Rob, I posted the pic of the Privateer but I don't have any more. Here's where I got it: http://www.news.navy.mil/view_single.asp?id=17801
If you look to the right of "Fat Albert" there is yet another Blue Angel F-18 for a total of 12 1/2! What is the aircraft to the right of that F-18?

Discussion on another board has determined that the engine to the Privateer is still where it was chained and the rest of the airplane has moved!

Fri Sep 24, 2004 8:33 pm

Don't know about the other airplane id, but the caption about that Privateer is definitely wrong. The engine lying there is an R-2600, the result of the STC Avery Aviation drew up for firebombing Privateers a loooong time ago.

Leave it to the media guys to confuse a Wright with a Pratt... :roll:

unidentified aircraft next to F-18

Sat Sep 25, 2004 3:42 pm

Hello all,

I think the mystery bird next to the f-18 is the Douglas F-10 Skynight (see picture below. Image from http://www.theknights.it/aviation/Airshow_museum/NAS_Pensacola/pensacola.htm

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