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Under new Ownership...

Fri Apr 30, 2004 9:18 am

Under new Ownership...

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B-17F Flying Fortress (41-24585) Wulf hound.

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Avia B-534 (older version) used by Luftwaffe for training purposes.

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Avia B-534-IV used by Luftwaffe as glider tug on Eastern Front. Plane has winter camouflage and auxiliary fuel tank (well visible below the port bottom wing).
Behind plane is DFS 230 glider. (J. Zazvonil's collection)

Captured B-24 and P-38

Wed Jun 20, 2007 3:10 pm

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Captured aircraft

Mon Sep 20, 2010 2:52 pm

Marcel posted this on the VLJ forum and gave permission to post them here. Great photos!


dujardin wrote:hello all,

i discover a seller on ebay with tens and tens of photo from the signal corps.
i have now tens of photos more in my files 'US army in germany'.
but i also discover several photos that could interest some of you.
take a seat and enjoy

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interesting view of a P-47 captured and tested by Germans, now back in US hands
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Altenburg 16april45

4 next at Bad Aibling
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at Manching
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secret weapon BA-439
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Junker's factory at Bernburg
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BF-110
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at Detmold
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DO-335
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forest near Schongau
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at Hangelar
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JU-188
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at Manching
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near Metz (France) dec44
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at Mulhausen
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near Leipheim
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near Stendal
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probably ME-163
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somewhere in ETO
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somewhere in Germany
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now photos with caption on the back

''pig a back''
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ME-262 in Japan ????? strange....
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at Hanau
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experimental
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this is a well knowed photo
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and best one of the show to complete, an A2 is present
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hope you enjoyeddddddddd
byeeeeeeeee
marcel

Re: Captured aircraft

Mon Sep 20, 2010 3:32 pm

The jet in Japan is a Nakajima 'KIKKA' scaled down copy of the Me-262 which I believe flew for the first time on the day of Japans surrender-

Re: Captured aircraft

Mon Sep 20, 2010 3:33 pm

Wow,

those are some spectacular photos. The vast majority I've never seen before and they are oh so very cool!

Thank you very much for posting.

Peace,

David

Re: Captured aircraft

Mon Sep 20, 2010 4:48 pm

the one that says Hannau is actually Fliergerhorst (Flea-ger-horst) means Flyers Nest, located near Hanau, Germany, was station 5 years there, looked pretty much the same, minus the scrap iron of course. Lots of bomb craters around it. It also had flack gun positions near the hangar on the right, it is located approximately 19km northeast of Frankfurt.

Re: Captured aircraft

Mon Sep 20, 2010 5:12 pm

Those are great!

Re: Captured aircraft

Mon Sep 20, 2010 5:42 pm

Tremendous stuff! Thanks for posting those!

Have you got any of the Me-262 two seat night fighter
brought to the US for evaluation??
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Re: Captured aircraft

Mon Sep 20, 2010 7:57 pm

Nakajima 'KIKKA' scaled down copy of the Me-262

Well...maybe in the same way a Fw-190 is a "scaled down copy" of a P-47. Other than the general layout, the Kikka has nothing in common with the 262.

Great pics! Too bad a few more of those weren't preserved..but I can't say I blame the folks at the time for just wanting to put the whole war behind them.

SN

Re: Captured aircraft

Mon Sep 20, 2010 7:59 pm

It looks like Werner Von Braun explaining the rocket propelled planes with the mountains in the background.

Re: Captured aircraft

Mon Sep 20, 2010 8:13 pm

Germany sent complete sets of plans for the ME-262 as well as the ME-163 to Japan in late 1944 via submarine, along with some parts. The ME-262 was assigned to Nakajima to produce, but the inferior metals available in Japan at the end of the war caused multitudes of problems, especially with the engines, and even more so with the Komet's rocket motor.

Walt

Re: Captured aircraft

Mon Sep 20, 2010 10:26 pm

GOOGLE Nakajima KIKKA and get
www.pilotfriend.com/photo/nakajima kikka
www.aviastar.org/air/japan/nakajima/kikka (virtual aviation museum, great source for weird/oddball types)

Re: Captured aircraft

Mon Sep 20, 2010 10:56 pm

GREAT PHOTOS !
[size=85]Thanks for sharing them with us.
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Re: Captured aircraft

Tue Sep 21, 2010 12:50 am

wow i only recognized 1 or 2 pics. the others i've never seen & are very vivid as to detail!!

Re: Captured aircraft

Tue Sep 21, 2010 6:41 am

The NASM has the Kikka prototype in storage..but one of the engines is on display at Udvar-Hazy. Here are some pics I snapped a couple of years ago (I believe that's a Jumo 004 from a 262 in the background of pic #3.) I saw a pic of the aircraft once hanging in the rafters at Garber, with drop tanks installed where the engines should be..I seem to remember hearing somewhere that they only had one engine.

SN

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