Studebaker Wright Cyclone R-1820-97 w/ Propeller, Test stand

StudeDave · **Posted:** Sat Mar 30, 2013 4:45 pm

My Studebaker buddies are trippin' out over this~

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Studebaker-Wright-Cyclone-R-1820-97-Engine-w-Propeller-Test-Stand-B-17-/251252151006?pt=Motors_Aircraft&hash=item3a7fcb92de

Based on the limited description- what say you?

The Inspector · **Posted:** Sat Mar 30, 2013 4:53 pm

StudeDave wrote:

My Studebaker buddies are trippin' out over this~

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Studebaker-Wright-Cyclone-R-1820-97-Engine-w-Propeller-Test-Stand-B-17-/251252151006?pt=Motors_Aircraft&hash=item3a7fcb92de

Based on the limited description- what say you?

Put that in the entrance of the LeMay Museum to demonstrate the crossover from cars to aviation :supz:

Tiger moth · **Posted:** Sat Mar 30, 2013 6:53 pm

Is the information you supplied taken from the engine data plate? Do you have log books for the engine and prop? What's the known history? Did it come out of a mechanics school? I love a great aviation story.

Tiger Moth

The Inspector · **Posted:** Sun Mar 31, 2013 10:00 am

Tiger moth wrote:

Is the information you supplied taken from the engine data plate? Do you have log books for the engine and prop? What's the known history? Did it come out of a mechanics school? I love a great aviation story.

Tiger Moth

It's on EVIL BAY so I would doubt, after 342 years of being beat upon by ham handed wannabe airyplain mekaniks the log books if any came with the probably Gummint surplused donated engine) are pretty deep in the local landfill.

The manufacturer's name would be on the sump data plate even if the bird emblem was missing (and the bird would have said 'built by STUDEBAKER')

The engine is in Arkansas and Dave is in Northern Washington so I'll bet someone sent him a link to the item, and that would be the extent of his involvement.

robkamm · **Posted:** Sun Mar 31, 2013 10:42 am

looks like a runner . anyone got a video? take the tarp off her

pjpahs · **Posted:** Sun Apr 07, 2013 6:44 pm

Have just seen the Collings B-17,"909" and the #2 engine is a Studebaker. The ground crewman verified this and I took a picture of the tag but it doesn't show up. Seen it in Ft Worth Texas at Meacham Field on April 1st. during their tour. No fooling.

K5DH · **Posted:** Sun Apr 07, 2013 7:13 pm

Lots of B-17Gs had Studebaker-built R1820s. We had a couple of them on Chuckie.

51fixer · **Posted:** Sun Apr 07, 2013 7:34 pm

The O-47 flown by POF had a Studebaker 1820 on it for many years.

StudeDave · **Posted:** Sun Apr 07, 2013 8:51 pm

Tiger moth wrote:

Is the information you supplied taken from the engine data plate? Do you have log books for the engine and prop? What's the known history? Did it come out of a mechanics school? I love a great aviation story. Tiger Moth

Those are good questions to ask I suppose.
For what is seen and said- does that price sound good, or?
I have always wanted one on a trailer to drag to StudeMeets just for the 'fun' of doing so.
But that's a bit more then I think I'd wanna pay.
I have a Fleet of six or more Studes to deal with first.

The Inspector wrote:

The engine is in Arkansas and Dave is in Northern Washington so I'll bet someone sent him a link to the item, and that would be the extent of his involvement.

Indeed- all I know is what's in the ad. However, for the next several weeks I'm actually not in Washington, but about eight or ten blocks from LAX.

pjpahs wrote:

Have just seen the Collings B-17,"909" and the #2 engine is a Studebaker. The ground crewman verified this and I took a picture of the tag but it doesn't show up. Seen it in Ft Worth Texas at Meacham Field on April 1st. during their tour. No fooling.

k5dh wrote:

Lots of B-17Gs had Studebaker-built R1820s. We had a couple of them on Chuckie.

As of last Summer, this little lady had TWO of them hanging on her wings~

number one~

number four~

Pretty cool, eh?

51fixer wrote:

The O-47 flown by POF had a Studebaker 1820 on it for many years.

Cool!!! I thought they were for B-17 use only.
But dare I ask- "what is an O-47"?

maxum96 · **Posted:** Mon Apr 08, 2013 7:32 pm

StudeDave wrote:

But dare I ask- "what is an O-47"?

Pre-war observation airplane. Was obsolete at the start of WWII. They were used as training aircraft and target tugs mostly. Built by North American.

51fixer · **Posted:** Tue Apr 09, 2013 7:24 am

StudeDave wrote:

[b] Cool!!! I thought they were for B-17 use only.

A type of engine was used by multiple aircraft.
In this case the Wright R-1820 in Wartime was used on the B-17, DC-3 (some), Lockheed Lodestar series and others as well as the O-47.
Engines were built by multiple companies.

I've seen Chevrolet, Studebaker, Nash engines as well as the Maytag logo on engine parts that come to mind at the moment.

StudeDave · **Posted:** Tue Apr 09, 2013 1:39 pm

maxum96 wrote:

Pre-war observation airplane. Was obsolete at the start of WWII. They were used as training aircraft and target tugs mostly. Built by North American.

Thanks! I don't believe I have ever seen one of those before.

51fixer wrote:

A type of engine was used by multiple aircraft.
In this case the Wright R-1820 in Wartime was used on the B-17, DC-3 (some), Lockheed Lodestar series and others as well as the O-47. Engines were built by multiple companies.
I've seen Chevrolet, Studebaker, Nash engines as well as the Maytag logo on engine parts that come to mind at the moment.

I understand that the R-1820 was used in different aircraft.
But I always thought that the 'dash' (model?) number designated it for certain birds or something to that effect,
not to mention that all of the wartime literature from Studebaker I have ever seen only mentions the B-17.

So is it then safe to say that an R-1820 of any model can go into anything that was designed for said engine?
(regardless of the 'dash' number)

SaxMan · **Posted:** Tue Apr 09, 2013 9:45 pm

I remember reading somewhere, perhaps in his autobiography, that Robert Morgan disliked the Studebaker engines and was glad that his crew chief always managed to find genuine Wright 1820s to hang on Memphis Belle. Apparently, he disliked their cars prior to World War II and that carried over into the war as well.

Chuck Giese · **Posted:** Wed Apr 10, 2013 8:53 am

StudeDave wrote:

So is it then safe to say that an R-1820 of any model can go into anything that was designed for said engine?
(regardless of the 'dash' number)

Nope, not a safe statement. A specific airplane requires a specific dash number, although multiple aircraft (such as DC-3/C-47 varients and B-17's) were designed to use the same dash number engine (1820-97). At one point we were looking to convert to 1820's for our DC-3, just to simplify logistics. That paperwork would have been fun....

Chuck

StudeDave · **Posted:** Fri Apr 12, 2013 11:40 am

Chuck Giese wrote:

Nope, not a safe statement. A specific airplane requires a specific dash number, although multiple aircraft (such as DC-3/C-47 varients and B-17's) were designed to use the same dash number engine (1820-97). At one point we were looking to convert to 1820's for our DC-3, just to simplify logistics. That paperwork would have been fun....
Chuck

I see. Thanks for the info.

Maybe one day I can get a shell of one if nothing else.
It's a part of StudeHistory that many folks do not know.
I'm not even sure if the Studebaker National Museum in South Bend, IN has one.
I know a guy in my area with his own Stude Museum who would love to 'one up' those guys...
(we know better then to wish for a StudeBuilt J-47)

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