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PostPosted: Mon Dec 24, 2007 12:53 am 
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Anyone know these guys?

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RECOVERING WWII PLANES • GREAT OPPORTUNITY • Warbirds available for recovery. We have the best target information. An American/Canadian group. • Contact Dan T. Jacobson - W.L.R WARBIRDS LOST & RECOVERY located Delavan, WI USA

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Very interesting. I've never heard of them. Too bad they don't have a website or any information on the website that I can find.

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Sounds like they want dollars for location info maybe? I'd be surprised if they really have any good info. Most of the places with the decent sites are off limits like Alaska and Canada.

Several years ago a guy here in Florida wanted 25k in exchange for GPS coordinates for a P-40 in a swamp. Knowing what swamp water in Florida does to wrecks i passed.

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anyonie have coordinates or location of the surviving 1 or 2 wrecks that cant be recovered? Curious to see if I can google map it! In alaska that is...


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a dime a dozen offer with some developable swamp land thrown in at no extra cost . i remember an aussie bloke in the late 90's that had a bee on a number of wrecks. all he could provide was requests for $$$$ & vague details.

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 25, 2007 9:30 pm 
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RC model builder....perhaps they are recoverable RC wrecks.... :roll:

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Note that they are now listing "what is it worth to you" ads on Barnstormers for a Mosquito, Hurricane, "several" T-6s, P-51H, and a Halifax (!).

Wisconsin doesn't seem like the land of confidence men. The plot thickens...


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A mosquito wrek: I will be interested to see what are the remain of a wood made plane, 60 year after... :twisted:


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Condition of wood structure from that age is going to be almost entirely dependent on the storage conditions. I've got a NOS wing for my L-5 that is pristine other than a little hangar rash on a tip rib. Only reason that I'm not going to fly it is that it appears to have used both types of glue. There is no way that I would fly anything that old that has casein glue in any structural location.

Stored out of direct sun, in a well vented area and kept free of rodents and other vermin and not subjected to wild swings in humididty, there isn't any reason that it should be automatically suspected as being bad. Of course you would be condered a few screws short if you elected to use it without a complete inspection.


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I'm sure the guy with the GPS coordinates of a P-40 in a swamp
was the same guy who sent me some photos of it in his driveway!
It was most of a banged-up fuselage...canopy...lower cowling and spinner...tail feathers, and at least one wing. At the time, I thought
$25,000 was steep...but not now! I've even tried to contact him again, to no avail!
Sometimes, they ARE out there, and what he had was certainly better than some of the pieces of crap in Australia that get rebuilt to factory new!
It even had most of the cowling, although I don't remember an engine.
But yes, there are certainly guys out there who want your money.
I still have a letter from a "company" back in the early '80s that
claimed they had a "secret stash" of dozens of Daimler-Benz engines, plus crated Arado biplanes, several Storches, etc. They wanted some
dollars, but would take your order for whatever you wanted and deliver it to you!! I showed it to the guys at Chino once, and they just laughed!!
Remember the guys who said they knew where all the W.W.II Spits
in crates had been dumped into the ocean, and all they needed was your check to bring them back up?
I guess I SHOULD mention that a dump site underwater was found
recently with several relatively complete SBDs, a Corsair, and a C-46.
Guess we shouldn't judge TOO quickly, huh?

Dan


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 7:38 am 
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i'd like to hear about the details of the recent underwater dump site find!!!
Danno wrote:
I'm sure the guy with the GPS coordinates of a P-40 in a swamp
was the same guy who sent me some photos of it in his driveway!
It was most of a banged-up fuselage...canopy...lower cowling and spinner...tail feathers, and at least one wing. At the time, I thought
$25,000 was steep...but not now! I've even tried to contact him again, to no avail!
Sometimes, they ARE out there, and what he had was certainly better than some of the pieces of crap in Australia that get rebuilt to factory new!
It even had most of the cowling, although I don't remember an engine.
But yes, there are certainly guys out there who want your money.
I still have a letter from a "company" back in the early '80s that
claimed they had a "secret stash" of dozens of Daimler-Benz engines, plus crated Arado biplanes, several Storches, etc. They wanted some
dollars, but would take your order for whatever you wanted and deliver it to you!! I showed it to the guys at Chino once, and they just laughed!!
Remember the guys who said they knew where all the W.W.II Spits
in crates had been dumped into the ocean, and all they needed was your check to bring them back up?
I guess I SHOULD mention that a dump site underwater was found
recently with several relatively complete SBDs, a Corsair, and a C-46.
Guess we shouldn't judge TOO quickly, huh?

Dan

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That is probably the same P-40. I tried to trade him a dodge weapons carrier and some beer for it but he wouldn't go for it. :)


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tom d. friedman wrote:
i'd like to hear about the details of the recent underwater dump site find!!! "



More than probably speaking about this very nice dive site

http://www.rickandkendra.com/Diving/Air ... lanes.html

Laurent


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help!!! i can't find the crates on the site!!! :x

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