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North American Aviation Lightening Holes

Posted: Sat Mar 23, 2013 7:08 am
by chippie51
Another really techie one I'm afraid, but we're after a set of lightening hole tools suitable for replicating the lightening holes on T-6, P-51 etc. Obviously there are various sizes, but is there a particular set of tools available anywhere which produce a result close to or the same as the original style?

Many thanks,

Re: North American Aviation Lightening Holes

Posted: Sat Mar 23, 2013 7:45 am
by Cvairwerks

Re: North American Aviation Lightening Holes

Posted: Sat Mar 23, 2013 3:08 pm
by chippie51
They seem very similar to those we already have, however they don't seem to produce a comperable flange. Is anyone producing tooling to match the old NAA holes and flanges?

Thanks

Re: North American Aviation Lightening Holes

Posted: Sat Mar 23, 2013 7:16 pm
by 51fixer
chippie51 wrote:They seem very similar to those we already have, however they don't seem to produce a comperable flange. Is anyone producing tooling to match the old NAA holes and flanges?

Thanks

Their hole flange specs don't have prints in the T-6 or 51 blue prints that I'm aware of.
Contact another rebuilder or you could have the parts read digitally and reverse engineer.

Re: North American Aviation Lightening Holes

Posted: Tue Mar 26, 2013 10:17 pm
by hang the expense
You will probably have to make them special. I made all the correct hole punch flange dies for the Curtiss P-40 and there are a bunch. Good luck.

Re: North American Aviation Lightening Holes

Posted: Wed Mar 27, 2013 12:03 am
by The Inspector
3/4 in MDF, a bandsaw, a good router and a hydraulic press from Horrible Freight make nested male/female patterns and get pumpin' that's how the fillet fairings on CF's White 1 Me-262 were made.

Re: North American Aviation Lightening Holes

Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2013 6:26 am
by Ashley Briggs
We are having to fabricate quite a few of these dies for a Mustang we are rebuilding. Also the Australian Wirraway and Boomerang also used the rolled edge lightning holes tracing their ancestry back to their NA connection. We use polypropylene which we buy as off cuts from a local industrial company. It's very easy to machine and quite durable as a press tool we have yet to have one fail. A great option to alloy or steel.
Cheers,
Ash.

Re: North American Aviation Lightening Holes

Posted: Tue Jun 11, 2013 12:20 pm
by rtwpsom2
If you ever find them, please post them here. I am looking for them for a CAD project I am doing.

Re: North American Aviation Lightening Holes

Posted: Wed Jun 12, 2013 12:00 pm
by lusc10
If you had a pullmax machine you could make a die to run a bead around the hole. We made a die for the lightening holes on the aft spar ribs on a Corsair that work great. It was that or make a lot dies for each size and shaped hole.

Randy