Gary ~ What's The Plan For Diamond Lil ? 2006 and Beyond!

Beachy · **Joined:** Sat Apr 08, 2006 6:20 am **Posts:** 1104

I think it's just that Ole 927 isn't finished with you yet, Gary!

Jet Mech · **Posted:** Wed Nov 14, 2007 2:12 pm

Can we document that as "Battle Damage :oops:

" from the Airshow Wars....

At least its fixable in an winter project.

Kurt

Warbird Kid · **Posted:** Wed Nov 14, 2007 10:01 pm

Eh it doesnt look that bad!

Really though, that does suck that that did happen. But nothing you cant fix Gary! :wink:

Now all she needs is the roller doors, top gun hatch, redirect the cable lines, ooooops! Started going on a tangent there! :oops:

Keep it up!

Randy Haskin · **Posted:** Thu Nov 15, 2007 2:10 am

retroaviation wrote:

And yes, before anyone asks, Bob does have a formation card, along with Paul, who was flying our plane. The flight was thoroughly briefed and we flew it as briefed.

Why is it relevant that either pilot had a formation card? Anyone can go fly formation together so long as its briefed and not taking place inside santitized airspace.

retroaviation · **Posted:** Thu Nov 15, 2007 7:51 am

Randy Haskin wrote:

retroaviation wrote:

And yes, before anyone asks, Bob does have a formation card, along with Paul, who was flying our plane. The flight was thoroughly briefed and we flew it as briefed.

Why is it relevant that either pilot had a formation card? Anyone can go fly formation together so long as its briefed and not taking place inside santitized airspace.

Good question Randy, and for most of the flying I do I'd agree with you...but anyone that flies formation with a CAF airplane MUST be formation rated and the flight MUST be briefed before hand, no matter if it's in waivered airspace or not...as per CAF rules. There are just lots of folks who watch us closely and I was simply making sure they knew we weren't breaking any of our own rules. The CAF is trying to do everything they can to insure a safer flying environment for our airplanes and pilots. I agree that just because you don't have a formation card, it doesn't mean you aren't capable of flying formation, this is just a rule that insures that the folks flying with us have at least gone through the paces.

Gary

daveymac82c · **Posted:** Fri Nov 16, 2007 1:52 am

Gary,

I'm sorry to hear about the damage. In a way I'm almost glad it happened, because now you'll have more to post about on the "What's up with Diamond Lil" thread.

Are there any new precautions or rules that will be brought into effect to avoid this from happening again? I don't know what that would be, but clearly, if things were done differently, the accident could have been avoided. All of this with the clarity of hind-sight, of course.

I'm glad to know Ole 927 is in good hands.

Cheers,

David

retroaviation · **Posted:** Fri Nov 16, 2007 9:29 am

daveymac82c wrote:

Are there any new precautions or rules that will be brought into effect to avoid this from happening again? I don't know what that would be, but clearly, if things were done differently, the accident could have been avoided. All of this with the clarity of hind-sight, of course.

I'm working on something in my head right now. Hopefully, I'll have a new installation of an item this winter that should make this sort of thing a bad memory.

Gary

Second Air Force · **Posted:** Fri Nov 16, 2007 10:11 am

I think I have an idea that will prevent further tail-sitting situations from occurring. It won't fix what happened this week, but it will DEFINITELY keep it from happening again:

Thanks for the idea, Jack!

Scott
P.S.--No smart remarks about my Okie Photoshop.

daveymac82c · **Posted:** Fri Nov 16, 2007 3:07 pm

Brilliant Idea!!!!

not too aerodynamic, but nice and simple.

Cheers,

David

retroaviation · **Posted:** Fri Nov 16, 2007 3:10 pm

daveymac82c wrote:

not too aerodynamic...

Well, heck...a B-24 isn't all that aerodynamic as it is. Jack's little pony wouldn't make that much difference in how the plane flies.

Gary

John Cotter · **Posted:** Fri Nov 16, 2007 3:17 pm

But I'll bet that extra "horsepower" would help.

Ztex · **Posted:** Fri Nov 16, 2007 4:21 pm

Hey!

That's my pony!

Second Air Force · **Posted:** Fri Nov 16, 2007 6:56 pm

Zane,

I'll bet Gary will let you have the pony back if you come down and work on the airplane this winter.

Besides, I don't know if the Squadron can afford to feed him! (the pony)

Scott

sgt hawk · **Posted:** Thu Nov 22, 2007 3:29 pm

Jack your pony is a real keeper, I'm 60+ , and divorced some 9 years now, and I had a date that looked dang near identical to that thing. I swear I knocked her motorcycle over gettin out of there. " I swore off Tequilla right there"!

Roger Cain · **Posted:** Wed Nov 28, 2007 12:13 am

Sorry I couldn't really get a chance to visit longer, as we were under guard during our media day.

Gary and Crew at Nellis AFB on 11/10/07.

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