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Author: | JOHN MILLER [ Sat Feb 04, 2012 7:18 am ] |
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http://defense.aol.com/2012/02/03/air-w ... latestnews |
Author: | aeroeng [ Sat Feb 04, 2012 9:10 am ] |
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That is a neat photo. aeroeng |
Author: | pjpahs [ Sat Feb 04, 2012 9:36 am ] |
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355 million for 20 planes? Heck, sell them 35 surplus T-37 Super Tweets and save the U.S. A. some big big bucks $$$$. |
Author: | gary1954 [ Sat Feb 04, 2012 10:54 am ] |
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pjpahs wrote: 355 million for 20 planes? Heck, sell them 35 surplus T-37 Super Tweets and save the U.S. A. some big big bucks $$$$. Amen on that one Brother Amen ![]() |
Author: | WallyB [ Sat Feb 04, 2012 11:09 am ] |
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This is even more cool ![]() ![]() OK, the Texan II is built in Wichita but it ain't really American now is it ? ![]() ![]() |
Author: | gale_dono [ Sat Feb 04, 2012 6:43 pm ] |
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pjpahs wrote: 355 million for 20 planes? Heck, sell them 35 surplus T-37 Super Tweets and save the U.S. A. some big big bucks $$$$. Yes but you see that wouldn't make anyone any money. |
Author: | Russ Blow [ Sat Feb 04, 2012 7:47 pm ] |
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I say go with this... ![]() http://802u.com/ The Air Tractor® AT-802U is an economical single engine turboprop aircraft designed for surveillance, precision strike, and rugged dirt strip utility missions. The AT-802U combines an 8,000-lb. (3,629 kg) payload and 10-hour ISR mission capability with the flexibility and responsiveness of a manned weapon system – for a fraction of the cost of unmanned aerial vehicle systems. » Real-time eye in the sky for ground troop support » Integrated fire control system » Training-focused force support » Small logistics footprint ![]() ![]() |
Author: | Dave Hadfield [ Sat Feb 04, 2012 9:30 pm ] |
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That Thrush looks like it makes a lot of sense. There is always a lot of airframe-evolution, and design maturity, in a long-lived commercial aircraft. Taking advantage of that would seem to be a low economic risk. But the other side of the coin is the unmanned missile-carrying aircraft. These seem to be taking over, since the opposition sometimes doesn't see them coming, and since you never have to go back and rescue a downed aviator. No sad funerals on your side. No awkward articles in home-town papers. Still, I think it's unwise to depend entirely on an unmanned program which requires a continuous hi-grade datalink. If that uplink is ever interrupted or jammed by some new technology, it would be unfortunate to suddenly be without close-in support. On the Thrush, you'd want armour for the cockpit and the engine, and the ability to do 200+ kts to make targeting at least a little difficult. For a start. Dave |
Author: | Dave Hadfield [ Sat Feb 04, 2012 9:33 pm ] |
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Oh! I see that was my 500th post! Dave |
Author: | AG pilot [ Sat Feb 04, 2012 10:03 pm ] |
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Dave, the AT-802U is an Air Tractor. It does have armor around the cockpit and engine, and self sealing fuel tanks. Awesome aircraft. |
Author: | Dave Hadfield [ Sat Feb 04, 2012 11:09 pm ] |
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Oops. I see my 501st post was more accurate than my 500th. Thanks. Dave |
Author: | CAPFlyer [ Sat Feb 04, 2012 11:10 pm ] |
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Funniest part of it all is that the Super Tucano and the Texan II are basically the same plane - the PC-7/9. I don't care what people say about the Tucano being different from the PC-7, they look almost identical externally with the only exception being the powerplant. You don't get 2 identical airplanes unless someone steals the others' plans or they share information If they really wanted a competition, they should have allowed in Air Tractor, who they omitted on a technicality. |
Author: | Forgotten Field [ Sun Feb 05, 2012 12:25 am ] |
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Quote: If they really wanted a competition, they should have allowed in Air Tractor, who they omitted on a technicality. What they didn't want their USAF instructors to be embarrassed by not being able to fly tail-wheel? |
Author: | P51Mstg [ Sun Feb 05, 2012 1:05 am ] |
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We had one of those Air Tractors here in WV as a water bomber a few years back, really an amazing airplane..... But this caught my eye..... http://defense.aol.com/2012/02/03/preci ... d=related1 Mark H |
Author: | helinut [ Sun Feb 05, 2012 1:15 am ] |
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Hi there Mark ,good to see you on here ,do you still have the bell 47, and do you still have the quarter with the beaver on it , only in Canada eh. |
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