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Author:  tom d. friedman [ Sun Mar 01, 2009 9:47 pm ]
Post subject:  obama's new marine 1 chopper is raising a stink in d.c.

watched nbc nightly news tonight. one topic raised was prez obama's newly proposed marine 1 chopper is raising a stink with washington bean counters re: the economy / bail outs / budget cuts etc. the current marine 1 or 1's date back to prez carter. a few years after 9/11 prez bush's advisors suggested a new marine 1 chopper for the president, due to national security issues, the old choppers are woefully obsolete etc. the new chopper proposed will carry many pounds of secure communications gear, a 14 passenger capacity, armor plating to withstand a hand fired missile, & a limited survivability in the event of being in proximity of a nuclear strike, not to mention the ability to fly further & faster than the current sikorskis. this is a u.s. navy venture. the proposed order of 28 of the new whirlybirds has been stuck in cost over runs & red tape since 2005. obama himself aknowledged on tv that his current sikorsky is fine. as taxpayers what's your answer?? i for one say get the new whirlybirds as the old ones are pushing 40 years old, & yes like it or not this new president is a walking target like no other before him, not to mention that the leader of the free world shouldn't have to be shuttled around in an old eggbeater.

Author:  The Inspector [ Sun Mar 01, 2009 9:58 pm ]
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Before someone gets all warped out of shape, those EUROCOPTERS were ordered, with NO OTHER BIDS accepted back in 2005 by the previous administration, so stop it!

Author:  muddyboots [ Mon Mar 02, 2009 2:27 am ]
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I'd say spend the money. I'm usually against defense spending but they shoudl just cram this one through and gedder done. Of all people, El Jeffe's birds should be up to date :(

Author:  skymstr02 [ Mon Mar 02, 2009 5:43 am ]
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The Inspector wrote:
Before someone gets all warped out of shape, those EUROCOPTERS were ordered, with NO OTHER BIDS accepted back in 2005 by the previous administration, so stop it!


Its not a Eurocopter, its a Westland design, teamed with Lockheed. Sikorsky had a competing bid using the S-92 design, but was not selected.

The problem is that the bureaucrats have ammended the original design by committee, and there in lies the problem. They have lost the prime mission for the helo. They want this aircraft to do everything that the VC-25 can do, and land and take off like a helicopter. The POTUS is not going to be in this aircraft for hours at a time, why does he need all of the recources that a VTOL flying White House has.

Author:  tom d. friedman [ Mon Mar 02, 2009 7:31 am ]
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to bad uncle sam can't work the kinks out of the ov -22 osprey, & use that as marine 1. if they could get the kinks out of it so it's safe enough for the president it would pay off for the troops.

Author:  Nathan [ Mon Mar 02, 2009 8:35 am ]
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my cousin is helping design those aircraft. :)

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