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Orlando Ramos-Cabrera

WEST HARTFORD - Police arrested an 18-year-old man who was posing as a U.S. Army sergeant while attempting to cash a check for $40,000 at a bank on South Main Street Thursday afternoon.

Orlando Ramos-Cabrera, of Hartford, was wearing a uniform he bought online, police said. He had also just purchased a 2008 Dodge Charger from a dealership in East Hartford with a phony check.

He is charged with first-degree larceny and illegal use of a uniform.

Police were dispatched at 4:06 p.m. to TD Bank North on a report of fraud in progress. Ramos-Cabrera was there in full uniform with "Special Forces" and "Cavalry" patches.

He identified himself as a sergeant in the U.S. Army. But police officers who are military veterans quickly recognized Ramos-Cabrera was a fake, police said. The Dodge, parked in front of the bank, was seized as evidence.

Author:	west-front [ Fri Dec 05, 2008 12:22 am ]
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Looks like a 9yr dressed up in dads uniform, hope they throw the book at him ........ Quote: Orlando Ramos-Cabrera WEST HARTFORD - Police arrested an 18-year-old man who was posing as a U.S. Army sergeant while attempting to cash a check for $40,000 at a bank on South Main Street Thursday afternoon. Orlando Ramos-Cabrera, of Hartford, was wearing a uniform he bought online, police said. He had also just purchased a 2008 Dodge Charger from a dealership in East Hartford with a phony check. He is charged with first-degree larceny and illegal use of a uniform. Police were dispatched at 4:06 p.m. to TD Bank North on a report of fraud in progress. Ramos-Cabrera was there in full uniform with "Special Forces" and "Cavalry" patches. He identified himself as a sergeant in the U.S. Army. But police officers who are military veterans quickly recognized Ramos-Cabrera was a fake, police said. The Dodge, parked in front of the bank, was seized as evidence.

Author:	muddyboots [ Fri Dec 05, 2008 3:18 am ]
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he look slike he wearing a damned burlap sack. If he's gonna besmirch the uniform, can't he at least wear the thing properly? Note that, although wearing body armor, knee pads, and carrying enough gear to stop a mule in its tracks, SSG Dockery doesn't look like he's wearing a king sized sheet wrapped around his body. Idiots like that don't piss me off because they're imitating a soldier to get a goody. They piss me off because they haven't a clue as to how to act and wear the damned uniform and taht makes ME look bad when the manage to fool people. Dude should have his ass kicked for that alone. Son of a bitch doesn't even know how to blouse his boots properly

Author:	west-front [ Fri Dec 05, 2008 6:03 am ]
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Muddyboots not only in your country but in mine as well, cases like this are becoming more and more frequent. Have a look at this site: http://www.anzmi.net/cases.html ANZAC Day in particular is where they come out and display medals and awards they are not entitled to. It started out as mainly veteran initiated campaign medals (not sanctioned or approved by the Government). Nowdays its full uniforms. There is a case on the above website of an American living in Australia who passed himself off as having: Quote: “33 years in the United States Marine Corps comprising of two years on submarines, two tours of duty in Vietnam, service in Grenada, Panama and Somalia, retiring as a Colonel, and then serving with the American Embassy in Canberra”. Sure it doesn't hold up to scrutiny to anyone with knowledge of the US Military, but to the public it all seems impressive. It must be that the lie, covers another lie, which covers ....

Author:	Mike Bates [ Fri Dec 05, 2008 10:19 am ]
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He wants to play soldier, drop him off in the mountains of Afghanistan by himself and see if he finds his way out. A-hole! Mike

Author:	Django [ Fri Dec 05, 2008 1:23 pm ]
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Maybe part of his "sentence" should be to enlist if he wants to "play" Army so badly....

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Author:	muddyboots [ Fri Dec 05, 2008 2:42 pm ]
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wait...you want to take an idiot who is goofy enough to imitate a soldier, and very very badly at that, and put him next to guys who are REAL soldiers? uh uh no thanks. But you never know. THe days of the judge smiling and offering you a way out of prison time are going away, but sometimes they still do it

Author:	ktst97 [ Fri Dec 05, 2008 6:39 pm ]
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[quote="Mike Bates"]He wants to play soldier, drop him off in the mountains of Afghanistan by himself and see if he finds his way out. /quote] Interesting posts in this thread, but this thought seems truly appropriate

Author:	p51 [ Fri Dec 05, 2008 11:49 pm ]
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The sad part is that he's wearing his beret more correctly than many real soldiers I see every day... I saw a guy get busted like this at the PX at Ft Lewis, he was being taken out in handcuffs by MPs. A SF CSM or 1SG (didn't close enough to be sure) stopped him and ripped off the SF tab and shoulder patch and snatched the green beret out of the guy's pocket. The guy looked about as SF-qualified as Jack Black in "Tropic Thunder"! This was right before 9/11, so the patches were sewn on and the NCO ripped them off with one move of the hand. Heck, I tried that later on with one of my ragged out BDUs and I couldn't even open the patch up! I wasn't 100% sure if the guy was a faker or just shamed his unit somehow until the next day when one of my soldiers told me he'd been there when it happened. The real SF NCO saw something not quite right about the guy and started playing the "who do you know?" game as SF was a small community at that time. Turns out, the guy had never served at all and he walked onto a large Army post with a SF uniform. I never heard what they did with the guy, though… Still, I get a little worried when I see stories like this because it makes people want to go in public and "out" people lying about their service and sometimes they get it wrong. Folks just need to be VERY careful about who they "call out" as a liar. I've been called a liar a few times via the internet for claiming I was an Army Captain. The problem is, I really was one, and have all the paperwork to prove it. I mean for crying out loud, who would lie about being a Ordnance officer in a mech Brigade, and never having been in combat? I even had someone corner me at a re-enactment years ago when I was still in the reserves, said he'd seen most internet posts on a WW2 re-enactor forum and was there to "bust" me for lying about my service. I pulled out my wallet and held up my Army ID card to his face and didn't say a word. His jaw dropped and he walked away without saying anything. I never found out who the guy was. I'd have made a terrible Ranger as I have a awful time remembering people's names (I always said I joined the Army because people's names were on their clothes). Today I could only name a few people I served with and would really come across as a liar if someone ever tired to play the "who do you know game" with me! A buddy of mine really was a SEAL and never made a big deal about it, never even had it on a resume, never went to reunions, had anything on his car or shirts to that effect, and it'd rarely ever come up in conversation. Not that he did anything secret or had bad memories, he just never thought anyone would care because he never saw combat and was raised by a WW2 Marine vet who'd "been there done that" and didn't think his own service would impress anyone as he just trained a lot and left the Navy after he'd been on the teams through that enlistment. He made the mistake of once talking about it at work and a co-worker of his went nuts and went on a rampage to "out" him as a imposter. He got the local media into it, and when the TV cameras came to the door, my friend was confused. They accused him of lying "to look like a man," and asked how empty his life had to be to lie about something like that. He went back inside, dug out a worn copy of his DD-214 and the TV folks stood on his doorstep with a "what do we do now?" look on their faces and quickly turned off the cameras. When he asked them if they'd even bothered to check his service somewhere, they looked at him blankly, especially when he pointed out that since he'd gone through the training and was on a team, his name had to be out there on some database if they'd bothered to look it up (which it was there when did a search of his name online). They didn't even apologize as they left. Obviously, the story never aired because there wasn't a story. My friend got that co-worker back eventually in spades and got a written apology from the TV station, but that's another story…

Author:	Robbie Roberts [ Mon Dec 08, 2008 12:21 pm ]
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P-51, you certainly have a point about the beret! There have been these imposters as long as there have been militaries- Certainly Caesar had a few lingering about, pretending to be Roman Legionnaires to impress the women... I remember one WWII story from one of the USAAF gents(can't remember which- I read literally dozens of WWII books each year- usually many over again) of his group going into a club or restaurant, and seeing a decorated Captain at one of the tables. Something about him seemed "wrong", and after afew minutes they realized the railroad tracks had no crossties! This guy had simply put a double pair of 1st LT bars on each epaulette! The police hauled him away to a possible prison term for impersonating... I've done my share of wearing the uniform as a reenactor- both as an officer, and as enlisted. But always WWII, and always with proper respect for the impression I was representing. And I only wear it to events, displays, etc., never to try to impress. I actually get a little self conscious about it sometimes! However, I do wear decorations. But they are not period ones- I wear the ones I have earned as a USAFR SSgt. (Except for the Pilot wings- they are part of the impression, and only the basic ones. Since I do have my private pilot certificate, I bend my rule in this instance... One pair has its own story, and they are carried in my wallet everywhere.) But, while I wear my ribbons(they're not really exciting ones anyway- typical "I was there at the right time" ones) I never feel a need to embellish my own history- I may not have had the most exciting career in the military, but it had its interesting moments, and those are enough to relate... And I get a laugh out of them anyway... around 13 1/2 years so far, all but a few months Reserve or Guard. Wish I'd done more interesting stuff, but don't feel a need to embellish an already honorable history... Just not real interesting... lol... Signalman(31R10, Det. A, 250 Sig. Bn NJARNG mid1990's), Cav Scout (19D10, A Trp. 1/158 Cav., MDARNG, late 1990s) and KC-10A Crew Chief (2A571L, 714 AMXS USAFR, 2003-current) Robbie

Author:	muddyboots [ Wed Dec 10, 2008 2:37 pm ]
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AND another thing :p LOOK AT HIS BOOTS! Those are freakin work boots I think the Tshirt is right (got out before the uniform change...) Robbie, I keep saying it: if you do your job and you sacrifice so taht others don't have to, you are a hero in my book. Nuff said.

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