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Part Number Books Needed
Posted: Sat May 24, 2008 4:00 pm
by Earls
Hello All,
I am looking for manufacturer specific hardware part number catalogs or manuals of any sort for Lockheed, North American, Douglas, Martin, Grumman, and Boeing. I need to identify over 750K lbs of bolts rivets nuts etc. etc. numbers needed would be for aircraft built from 1935 through 1985 in Burbank, Inglewood and greater Los Angeles area.
I will pay top top dollar for copies or originals
Thanks in advance !
Tom Neely
earlscentral@yahoo.com
Posted: Sat May 24, 2008 11:12 pm
by bdk
This is probably not much help to you, but the hardware part numbers you are looking for are proprietary to the airframers you listed and are considered intellectual property.
That being said, unless it is something special, it probably crosses over to a MIL-SPEC or a vendor part number. You might check with some of the fastener companies or with some of the online services that have popped up like IHS (
http://parts.ihs.com/products/procurement/catalogxpress-vendors/index.htm).
Posted: Mon May 26, 2008 1:36 pm
by Earls
BDK
Yes I know.
However I have found some manuals for the P38 and Constellation that have the govt part number and lockheed "poo"#.
Also I have some douglas # books
I know there is more out there
As for the generic AN Nas and MS numbers I have all of those books already.
We are hunting specific machined parts and various fabbed items part numbers for all of the models built from 1938 to about the late 80's (out of Burbank especailly)
Most of the hardware boxes are marked with both numbers I am trying to decipher them. The ones that have the aircraft company on them are easy its the boxes without logos or aircraft models that are the puzzle
Tom
Posted: Mon May 26, 2008 6:23 pm
by bdk
Do you have some example numbers? Maybe some of the folks here can help.
Posted: Tue May 27, 2008 2:33 pm
by Earls
BDK
ok here is an example I have 10 boxes of 10 each with this on them as I write it here.......
PLANT: INGLEWOOD
STK no: 6590-700093-329
NAS 101-296
Nomenclature: Welded Assy Tube Steel
DATE: 6-3-57
Method Packaged: Method 3
Contract # AF14(604)4983
I suspect its for Northrop or North American as that was the pallet it was on. Also the NAS 101-296 doesnt show up in my bible of NAS numbers
Here is another one......
40 bags of these....
MBAD-5306-206-5358
BOLT
5 EA.
AF04(647)-114
Douglas Aircraft co.
1-7-1958
now multiply this by 750,000 and thats what i have to dig through and identify
The run of the mill AN NAS and MS stuff I have handled. its these GOVT "530" numbers and variations that are giving me the headache
Posted: Tue May 27, 2008 5:36 pm
by bdk
Earls wrote:BDK
ok here is an example I have 10 boxes of 10 each with this on them as I write it here.......
PLANT: INGLEWOOD
STK no: 6590-700093-329
NAS 101-296
Nomenclature: Welded Assy Tube Steel
DATE: 6-3-57
Method Packaged: Method 3
Contract # AF14(604)4983
I suspect its for Northrop or North American as that was the pallet it was on. Also the NAS 101-296 doesnt show up in my bible of NAS numbers
Welded Assembly - Tube, 3/8 O.D., Steel, Threaded Rod Ends Superseded - October 1946 (Rev. 1) [Use: AIA/NAS NAS 358]
NAS-101 WELDED ASSEMBLY - TUBE, 3/8 O.D., STEEL, THREADED ROD ENDS
INACTIVE FOR NEW DESIGN USE NAS 358
ENG. REF.: Standard for use with NAS-98, NAS-99 and NAS-100 Control Rod Assemblies or any similar assemblies.
-296 means it is a 296" long tube fillet welded to two AN490-6 threaded rod ends.
I got this from IHS "Specs & Standards." The AN Spec was approved in June 1942.
Posted: Tue May 27, 2008 6:16 pm
by bdk
Earls wrote:40 bags of these....
MBAD-5306-206-5358
BOLT
5 EA.
AF04(647)-114
Douglas Aircraft co.
1-7-1958
5306 is the FSC (Federal Supply Class) for bolts.
00-206-5358 is the NIIN (National Item Identification Number- you have to add the leading 00 to the NIIN nowadays)
These were last bought in 2007 for $8.33 each by the Navy, Air Force and Defense Logistics Agency.
Info from IHS "Haystack."
Posted: Wed May 28, 2008 11:17 am
by Earls
BDK
you are hired!
So what aircraft did this stuff go on ?
Posted: Wed May 28, 2008 3:47 pm
by bdk
Your guess is as good as mine, but the bolts are still being procured and in inventory...
Any contract numbers are so old and the aircraft obsolete in the government inventory that they aren't in the current (electronic) system so it is hard to track.
I wish I knew of an online site to look up obsolete contract numbers.
Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 3:08 pm
by Earls
BDK
where did you type in the part numebr for search at the DRMS.DLA.MIL
website ?
Neely
Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 8:33 pm
by bdk
Earls wrote:BDK
where did you type in the part number for search at the DRMS.DLA.MIL
website ?
Neely
I never did! When I was looking to buy a military truck from DRMO you could click on the link for the truck and there it was. I just learned to replace the NSN at the end of the old truck URL.
Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 10:42 pm
by Earls
BDK
YOU ROCK !
Thanks so much
it's working great now
Tom Neely
Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 11:14 pm
by bdk
Glad to help! I'd be pleased to see all your parts find loving homes.
If you happen to find any new in the wrap T-6 props blades or buckets of machine gun parts, let me know!
Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 5:02 pm
by Earls
BDK
no guns or props....
And not much AT6 stuff yet that we have run across
Actually we found some early bolt packs with "EC3" on them with N/A Aviation printed on the slip. Have no idea what they go on though
REMEMBER JUST HARDWARE!
actually if you could help me find a home for the electrical stuff that would be great. I want to dump it all ( cheap ) to one collector / dealer /mechanic when its sorted out to make room for the titanium stuff coming in now
Tom Neely