A little Soap Box material - Gen Av.
Fri Jan 28, 2011 2:38 pm
http://www.theatlantic.com/national/arc ... ity/70129/
I've been preaching this to any one that will listen for quite a while now....(us that hang around airports with a camera know how un-inviting airports CAN be)
TSA will kill aviation in this country if we let them...it might take years to do but the effect will be seen.
I've been preaching this to any one that will listen for quite a while now....(us that hang around airports with a camera know how un-inviting airports CAN be)
TSA will kill aviation in this country if we let them...it might take years to do but the effect will be seen.
Re: A little Soap Box material - Gen Av.
Fri Jan 28, 2011 2:50 pm
Absolutely right. That's why I forward ANYTHING that I can that's related to the guys at http://www.tsatyranny.com. It's a bad, bad thing.
Ryan
Ryan
Re: A little Soap Box material - Gen Av.
Fri Jan 28, 2011 4:30 pm
Great article! Especially the part about the dreams of a 3-year old. Explains well why a grown man or woman will devote years of their life to burning excessive quantities of aviation fuel, contrary to following the religious mantra the "climate change" extremists preach (and my wife's preaching about family "responsibility").
Maybe if I buy an electric car, I can offset the AvGas I've burned in the past? If I live another 50 years I'll be even! Or, I could just buy the offsets directly from the high priest of hypocrisy, Al Gore, and even my score right now?
Maybe if I buy an electric car, I can offset the AvGas I've burned in the past? If I live another 50 years I'll be even! Or, I could just buy the offsets directly from the high priest of hypocrisy, Al Gore, and even my score right now?
Re: A little Soap Box material - Gen Av.
Fri Jan 28, 2011 5:15 pm
What a great article! Thanks for pointing it out, Zane. Each time the government takes away another piece of our freedom in the name of anti-terrorism, the terrorists are one step closer to winning. That's what they really want, right? To destroy our freedom and the American way of life? That just bites. 
The government is going to great lengths to keep someone from hijacking another jetliner. I wonder what they're doing to keep some doofus from renting a Ryder truck, filling it with fertilizer and diesel fuel, and using it to blow up a building full of innocent people? Maybe I don't pay enough attention to the news, but I sure don't recall hearing anyone in Washington giving that scenario a second thought.
Dean the sarcastic
The government is going to great lengths to keep someone from hijacking another jetliner. I wonder what they're doing to keep some doofus from renting a Ryder truck, filling it with fertilizer and diesel fuel, and using it to blow up a building full of innocent people? Maybe I don't pay enough attention to the news, but I sure don't recall hearing anyone in Washington giving that scenario a second thought.
Dean the sarcastic
Re: A little Soap Box material - Gen Av.
Sat Jan 29, 2011 8:43 am
I see and work with the nonsense everyday. TSA is the mose useless group of people ever assembled. Most of them are the rejects that the airlines would hire to throw bags. No that is not a joke.
Re: A little Soap Box material - Gen Av.
Sat Jan 29, 2011 11:53 am
I'm of two minds about this.
Sure I like to hang around small airports with cameras. At my favorite airports like Chino, I've seen all the new gates and fences. And, true to the article's comments about "security theater", I've easily found ways around it when I want to.
Some of the stuff about "killing the magic" and general aviation's relationship with the community is nostalgic fantasy though. For any member of the general public that did not have real business at the local airport, they were never interested in being there apart from airshow days and don't notice or mind the lack of access, and general aviation was never interested in having them there. General aviation's outreach to the community has generally been nil over the decades, which led to the public misconceptions or prejudices against general aviation that let things like what is reported in the piece.
And the comments about our rights being trampled and the baddies destroying our way of life are overwrought. Access to airports was never a right or freedom. It is true that much of the new security seems misguided, ineffective, wasteful, unnecessary. But it terms of civil liberties, all it really does is inconvenience a fairly small special interest. We are better off focusing on the uselessness of the measures rather than saying that important rights are being trampled on. In a world where it's now okay to eavesdrop on citizens who are not under suspicion of anything, limiting public access to GA ramps kind of pales in importance.
Brandon's comments about avgas and climate change I can't make out at all. I thought the article was about ridiculous pseudo security measures instituted mainly by that crowd of hypocrites on the other side of the aisle. But, whatever.
August
Sure I like to hang around small airports with cameras. At my favorite airports like Chino, I've seen all the new gates and fences. And, true to the article's comments about "security theater", I've easily found ways around it when I want to.
Some of the stuff about "killing the magic" and general aviation's relationship with the community is nostalgic fantasy though. For any member of the general public that did not have real business at the local airport, they were never interested in being there apart from airshow days and don't notice or mind the lack of access, and general aviation was never interested in having them there. General aviation's outreach to the community has generally been nil over the decades, which led to the public misconceptions or prejudices against general aviation that let things like what is reported in the piece.
And the comments about our rights being trampled and the baddies destroying our way of life are overwrought. Access to airports was never a right or freedom. It is true that much of the new security seems misguided, ineffective, wasteful, unnecessary. But it terms of civil liberties, all it really does is inconvenience a fairly small special interest. We are better off focusing on the uselessness of the measures rather than saying that important rights are being trampled on. In a world where it's now okay to eavesdrop on citizens who are not under suspicion of anything, limiting public access to GA ramps kind of pales in importance.
Brandon's comments about avgas and climate change I can't make out at all. I thought the article was about ridiculous pseudo security measures instituted mainly by that crowd of hypocrites on the other side of the aisle. But, whatever.
August