LAX-747 ingests cargo container
Tue May 12, 2009 7:42 am
Just saw a clip on the news of a JAL 747 that sucked up a cargo container as it pushed back. It looks like it wedged in tight in the #1 engine intake. 
How often does this sort of thing happen? First time I've seen it on the news! At least they noticed it and did not attempt take-off!! Must have made a bit of noise!
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/8045086.stm
How often does this sort of thing happen? First time I've seen it on the news! At least they noticed it and did not attempt take-off!! Must have made a bit of noise!
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/8045086.stm
Tue May 12, 2009 7:58 am
"believed to be a cargo container"?
As in "believed" to be Santa Clause?
They had video of the Cessna that crashed into the porta-potties.
As in "believed" to be Santa Clause?
They had video of the Cessna that crashed into the porta-potties.
Tue May 12, 2009 8:28 am
Think you would know that it was there somehow as even at idling the engine parameters would have been interesting...
Collisions with ground equipment are not uncommon and ground staff are relied on to give the all clear but this is the first time I've heard of a container getting in there
Collisions with ground equipment are not uncommon and ground staff are relied on to give the all clear but this is the first time I've heard of a container getting in there
Tue May 12, 2009 8:32 am
Guess it's better to have sucked in the cargo container than the ground crewman walking the wing tip. From the movie clip, it looks like they are out a good bit from the gate. I wonder if someone just drove by too close as they were spooling up. How much do those empty units weigh?
Tue May 12, 2009 8:55 am
Wed May 13, 2009 4:48 pm
wow!! put a square block in a round hole!! sounds like an aptitude test!!
Fri May 15, 2009 3:00 am
Modern, ultra high bypass engines (CF-90, 4084, TRENT, GENXT) can and will pull you in if you are too close to them or wearing something baggy like a rain suit or poncho. And you are heading into the 'MECHANAMATIC' it makes mounds and mounds of shredded mechanic'.
In my DC-10 classes I used caution the students that both ends of a CF-6 (JT-9's too) running on the ground was a real hazard to their safety all the time, and if the aircraft shifted aft and the nose gear 'ground shift' switch was activated by extending the nose strut, the engines would go to 45% or flight idle automatically. In that scenario if you were launching and wearing a rainsuit or poncho the engines can suck you in from the nose gear comm plug port next to the nose strut and you will have 1.31 seconds to aim for the hub spinner inside the 10 foot diameter inlet (no IGV's like on a JT-8), out the back the exhaust blast will knock you a$$ over teakettle up to 1/4 mile behind one running, that's why carriers flying DC-10/11's usually waited until they were clear of any terminals or windows before lighting off the center engine.
The CF-90 on a triple 7 is 13.5 feet in diameter, it can swallow a 737 fuselage and some in service are making in excess of 125000 lbs/thrust and will evolve to over 170000 lbs/thrust in the future.
Like Elmer Fudd said 'be vewwy, vewwy careful'
For some reason ,this thing insists on putting the 'cool' emoticon where I want it to say JT-8
In my DC-10 classes I used caution the students that both ends of a CF-6 (JT-9's too) running on the ground was a real hazard to their safety all the time, and if the aircraft shifted aft and the nose gear 'ground shift' switch was activated by extending the nose strut, the engines would go to 45% or flight idle automatically. In that scenario if you were launching and wearing a rainsuit or poncho the engines can suck you in from the nose gear comm plug port next to the nose strut and you will have 1.31 seconds to aim for the hub spinner inside the 10 foot diameter inlet (no IGV's like on a JT-8), out the back the exhaust blast will knock you a$$ over teakettle up to 1/4 mile behind one running, that's why carriers flying DC-10/11's usually waited until they were clear of any terminals or windows before lighting off the center engine.
The CF-90 on a triple 7 is 13.5 feet in diameter, it can swallow a 737 fuselage and some in service are making in excess of 125000 lbs/thrust and will evolve to over 170000 lbs/thrust in the future.
Like Elmer Fudd said 'be vewwy, vewwy careful'
For some reason ,this thing insists on putting the 'cool' emoticon where I want it to say JT-8
Fri Jul 31, 2009 8:37 pm
The Delta incident was in one of those "oops" photo collections that went around the web a while back.