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Looking for Paint Shop

Thu Aug 30, 2007 2:56 pm

I have a 1988 Be 36 TC Bonanza that runs good, but badly needs a paint job. Price is really important, I'm not trying to make an Oskosh winner. Any suggstions?

Thu Aug 30, 2007 3:12 pm

Bill, check your PMs.

Re: Looking for Paint Shop

Thu Aug 30, 2007 10:55 pm

Bill Greenwood wrote:I have a 1988 Be 36 TC Bonanza that runs good, but badly needs a paint job. Price is really important, I'm not trying to make an Oskosh winner. Any suggstions?


My first call would be to the American Bonanza Society (ABS). If you are not a member already I strongly suggest joining as its worth the weight of you Bonanza in gold.. If you are a member are you going to the convention at Beech Field next week?

Bon Soc

Fri Aug 31, 2007 5:33 pm

A36, I used to be a member and enjoyed it. The clinics are a bit expensive, but mainly the Spitfire keeps me so busy I don't have time for much on the Bonanza. Bet you would not believe a B36 can carry a 60 gal Spitfire belly tank inside it's baggage compartment, barely!

Sat Sep 01, 2007 1:58 am

The clinics are a bit pricey but are well worth it. Like anything else its always good to have a specialist look it over every couple of years.
I can't believe your drop tanks fits in a bonanza. That is impressive. It has a lot of room but i never would have guessed it!

Sat Sep 01, 2007 4:09 am

Bill,

I've selected Master's at Wickenburg Airport in Az for my Lancair racer. He's honest, up front, doesn't want to cheat anybody, and is very reasonable with his quote. I've heard that the work the shop performs is second to none.

Hey, and if you choose this shop... You can always visit Bob DeFord in Prescott and see his 1:1 Spit!

Cheers.

Sat Sep 01, 2007 10:40 am

Bill,

Ellen and I were extremely satisfied with Aircraft Refinishing Company in Paola, Kansas if you'd like to use a midwest shop. Ours was an insurance paintjob so I am not exactly sure what his prices run, but the final outcome turned out nearly flawless. I'll PM you the phone number.
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Scott

Sat Sep 01, 2007 3:01 pm

Scotty G wrote:Bill,

I've selected Master's at Wickenburg Airport in Az for my Lancair racer. He's honest, up front, doesn't want to cheat anybody, and is very reasonable with his quote. I've heard that the work the shop performs is second to none.

Hey, and if you choose this shop... You can always visit Bob DeFord in Prescott and see his 1:1 Spit!

Cheers.


Scotty, are you re-painting Unleashed, or did you get a new plane?

Sat Sep 01, 2007 7:17 pm

Nah, it just needs some paint work done. She is for sale, though.

PAINT

Sun Sep 02, 2007 5:24 pm

Thanks for the tips, guys. I am hoping for cheaper, maybe someone who is not in a high overhead area and needs the work. This is not a Lancair or show plane, just my transportation plane. When I had the Spitfire done I was very particular, but unless I can get a good price I may not do it at all.

Fri Sep 07, 2007 12:24 am

Saw a guy with an Apache he painted himself.

Did it for very little money and very little labor.


It turned heads wherever it went. People couldn't stop looking at it.


































He used 50 cans of hardware-store spraypaint and no masking.


All of the people looking at it were also laughing at it.


His reasoning was that a cheap airplane should have a cheap paint job.




One of these days, when I get all my tools and equipment mobile, I'll be able to drive to folks like you, set up a paint booth, and paint your airplane. :D :D

Fri Sep 07, 2007 7:56 pm

well, I've seen a couple of spray can paint jobs that didn't look half bad - but . . . I can strongly recommend Dial Eastern States Painting in Cadiz Ohio. It's a family run business and they do Oshkosh quality work at very, very reasonable prices. I have had a plane painted there and know many others who have gone there. The proof is not just in the pudding, but how it looks several years down the road. The prep work is key and if you look at cheap paint jobs later on you see bubbling and other defects.
Things to look for - you want all panels and surfaces removed, all hardware replaced. Part of the reason these guys are reasonable has to do with the rules in Ohio regarding hazardous waste. Maybe they aren't as green as some others. Well, actually they're really, really lax. Also they have lower insurance and workers comp rates then other states . . . Okay, so they also threw two elections to the repuglicans, so any self-respecting liberal should feel okay about it. Taking advantage, I mean.
Also, they do really nice work. They really do go above and beyond, correcting things on my plane that had nothing to do with the paint and many other mechanics had overlooked.

Painting your bird

Fri Sep 21, 2007 5:49 pm

Its more of a "do you have a legal place to paint it?" and still have the low cost?

I know for a fact that you can't paint something more than a panel or two in a large hanger without authorization to do so.

Take doing a complete airframe, not only is it a LOT of work to bring an older airframe back to lookin good, but there are alot of materials involved to make it look decent.

Just the sand paper, masking, and massive prep work will cost a good chunk of change.

My uncle does corporate jet paint work, and even on a well kept bird, it can make for a good size task boh financially, and materials.


Five-one
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