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PostPosted: Mon Feb 09, 2009 8:09 pm 
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ok........ i know this should be in another category, but this topic warrants being posted on the most popular place on wix, the hangar, so shoot me!!i' honestly feel bad for captain sullenberger with all the news media coverage. he's very soft spoken, humble, & a connsumate professional. it's perfectly obvious he's very uncomfortable with all the publicity, he's stated a number of times he was just doing his job. yeah he's a hero as are the rest of the crew, but enough!! give the man what he wants, privacy. granted, in this crapped out country people are grasping at a bit of good news for a change, a man saved 155 lives. i also strongly feel that u.s. airways is using him as a public relations tool & they are manipulating his professionalism. at every news conference & interview the crew appears in company uniforms. what's wrong with regular clothes?? i think that sully's bosses are what's wrong with this country, that being sheer corporate greed via a job well done.

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Yeah, it's as if US Airways is saying: "Pilots like Capt. Sully are a representative of the quality of our flight crews. Come fly with us, and you'll be safe!" I feel bad for him, but I guess all I can say is welcome to the world of commercial aviation where the Management doesn't know squat about aviation, and only cares about LOOKING good. :roll:


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I think he addressed the question of too much publicity yesterday.

He said he didn't mind because he sensed that the public was hungry for a positive story amidst the uncertain times and bad news everyone is experiencing.

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PbyCat-Guy wrote:
Yeah, it's as if US Airways is saying: "Pilots like Capt. Sully are a representative of the quality of our flight crews. Come fly with us, and you'll be safe!" I feel bad for him, but I guess all I can say is welcome to the world of commercial aviation where the Management doesn't know squat about aviation, and only cares about LOOKING good. :roll:
very well put!!

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No, US Airways is a business just like anywhere else. If I ran US Airways, I'd probably do the same thing, as would Don Trump for that matter.

Not to get political, because what I'm saying is incidental to this discussion:

What you mention is not even close to what's wrong. There is a lot more wrong, and that has to do with a huge gov't, out of control TSA, and other agencies, power mongering ... MOD Edit - PM Sent

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No, US Airways is a business just like anywhere else. If I ran US Airways, I'd probably do the same thing, as would Don Trump for that matter.

Not to get political, because what I'm saying is incidental to this discussion:

What you mention is not even close to what's wrong. There is a lot more wrong, and that has to do with a huge gov't, out of control TSA, and other agencies, power mongering, and an unprecidented, MOD Edit - PM Sent


"Not to get political.." Sorry, your disclaimer doesn't keep it from being political, which it is. AND IMHO claiming that it's "incidental" to this discussion is quite a stretch.

Mudge the non-political :roll:

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Sorry, this whole topic started that way, impossible to respond with too many omissions. This whole discussion should not have been started. In other words, if someone wants to talk about Karl Marx it's pretty hard to leave Communism out of the discussion. Same thing here.

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I think you guys are way off. Captain Sullenburger wears his uniform well. He was an outstanding graduate of the Air Force Academy. He flew F-4's which were a big deal in their time. He was the first person to successfully pull off a ditching in icy water, in that model of Airbus without loss of lives. He's a model citizen with a smoking hot wife. He has been brutally modest and reserved.
He makes aviation and pilots look good, why pick on him?

If you want to throw someone under the bus go back and look at Air Force Capt. Scott O'Grady. Never has so much been made, for so long, over so little. He was even an Oshkosh guest of honor standing up there with people like Yeager, Crossfield, Gabreski, and some of the early astronauts. Really sickening, IMO.


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Easy guys...take a deep breath and relax a bit

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at every news conference & interview the crew appears in company uniforms. what's wrong with regular clothes??

What better to wear?? They're representing their company, their
profession, their associates and themselves. :idea: :!:

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jack, i just feel that they are ordinary people 1st & employees of an airline 2nd, & i feel that their stellar job performance in an emergency is being exploited by their superiors at u.s. air. to the entire gang on this site, i only posted this topic because i feel the way it's been handled by the airline's corporate staff, & naturally the media is shameful. please let's not have the thread deteriorate into a pissing contest.

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I, for one, find it a breath of fresh air to see a pilot treated well after a crash, rather than the typical villification by incompetent armchair quarterbacks who have months to sit and analyze the circumstances a crew had seconds to recognize and deal with, and even less time to react to. He did one hell of a job, and is a credit to the profession.

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re Scott O'Grady.

The man was shot down while in the service of his country--shot down by people who wanted to kill him. He has repeatedly stated that the only reason he is here today is due to the grunts of the 24th Marine Expeditionary Unit and that the men of the MFR team that went in and got him are the true heroes of that incident. So he deserves a bit more than being thrown under a bus. The reason he does public events isn't to get kudos, it's to explain what modern pilots do, and go through, as opposed to what guys 60 years ago did. The reason he is still a public figure is because he is fairly personable, the public knows his name, and he can put a sentence together without sounding stupid. When events or news organizations need someone to talk about modern airpower, why wouldn't they call him to speak?

By the way: I'm sure it'd be a real thrill to have Yeager snarl at me as I asked him to sign his book, but he's a REAL example of someone who took his heroic past and flogged it unmercifully. And all the while acting like his has a Bronx fire plug shoved up his ass. Hardly someone I would allow to be my friend, much less someone to idolize. :x

I'm sure this will start the threads second firestorm, but I can't believe I just read someone claiming an American hero, great or small, should be thrown under a bus. :? It sickened you? Man, you need to get your freaking sense of perspective checked. :wink:

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And all this is related to Warbirds how????

Note to moderators: I thought you were out to rid this Forum of pea-brained mouth breathing paranoids using the Forum for their own obscure political agendas. I think you missed a few.

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