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Author:  GARY HILTON [ Fri Mar 13, 2009 12:22 am ]
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Ran across these wood fuselages at El Mirage, Ca.

Author:  airknocker [ Sat Mar 14, 2009 11:26 am ]
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I'll bite: Dehavilland Vampire cockpit?
http://www.paulnann.com/Make.asp?Make=D ... _w1873.jpg

Author:  GARY HILTON [ Sun Mar 15, 2009 9:30 pm ]
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Boy, I sure don't know....Was the Vampire built with a wood fuselage?

Author:  Jerry O'Neill [ Sun Mar 15, 2009 9:37 pm ]
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Wood cockpit on the Vampire.
Jerry

Author:  The Inspector [ Sun Mar 15, 2009 9:59 pm ]
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Yeah, but it was along the same process as the Mossie, molded veneers on the outside (both inner and outer) and a balsa sheet sandwiched in between, and fabric over the outer veneer.
Those look to be considerably older and more along the lines of a limited production light plane from the 30's/40's

Author:  airknocker [ Sun Mar 15, 2009 10:55 pm ]
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It would appear to have a nosewheel well under the forward bulkhead, but no provision for a firewall if it had a tractor engine???? Dunno??

Author:  bdk [ Sun Mar 15, 2009 10:57 pm ]
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Looks like it had a retractable nose gear and had two seats side-by-side. Culver V?

Author:  airknocker [ Mon Mar 16, 2009 12:36 pm ]
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bdk, I think your on the right track, how about a Culver drone PDQ-8 or 14?
http://www.aerofiles.com/culver-pq8.jpg
http://www.aerofiles.com/culver-PQ14A.jpg

Author:  Alain [ Wed Mar 18, 2009 12:35 pm ]
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Don't think it's a Culver, as mentionned before, look like a remain of wheel well into the lower firewall center. But not big and round enough for the Vampire and this last one had a small metal frame windshield.

You can also see 4 rusted metal piece for single engine mount. Could be Homebuilt Czetkovick Firefly CA-65. There is not enough different ones out there! we'll probably never know. :roll:

Alain.

Author:  Alain [ Wed Mar 18, 2009 12:38 pm ]
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Just looked at the second link on the Culver, I should have checked before :oops: this is more like it. the retractable one you're right.

Alain

Author:  Ztex [ Wed Mar 18, 2009 1:29 pm ]
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I think you guys may be close...

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Author:  retroaviation [ Wed Mar 18, 2009 1:33 pm ]
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I dunno, y'all. The turtledeck on the Culver pictured looks more "pointy" to me than the rounded off turtledeck on the airframe(s) in question.

Gary

Author:  Alain [ Wed Mar 18, 2009 2:23 pm ]
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Also the 45 degree angle piece between the large bulkhead and the horizontal stringer runing from front to back below shoulder height, not common to the Culver...

Author:  Cvairwerks [ Wed Mar 18, 2009 7:56 pm ]
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Also, Culver PQ-14 is only about 22 inches across at the canopy rails. The pieces in the original pic are probably closer to 40 inches across

Author:  bdk [ Wed Mar 18, 2009 8:22 pm ]
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Alain wrote:
Also the 45 degree angle piece between the large bulkhead and the horizontal stringer runing from front to back below shoulder height, not common to the Culver...
Certainly not a PQ-14. might be a PQ-8, but those are quite rare and as you note, that 45 degree angle feature is not consistent with the Culver series.

As for a homebuilt, that's anybody's guess! There are a lot more possibilities there.

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