What is/was it?
Posted: Fri Mar 13, 2009 12:22 am
Ran across these wood fuselages at El Mirage, Ca.
Ran across these wood fuselages at El Mirage, Ca.
Warbird Information Exchange
DISCLAIMER: The views expressed on this site are the responsibility of the poster and do not reflect the views of the management.
https://www.warbirdinformationexchange.org/phpBB3/
What is/was it?
https://www.warbirdinformationexchange.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=28570
Page 1 of 2
Ran across these wood fuselages at El Mirage, Ca.
Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2009 11:26 am
I'll bite: Dehavilland Vampire cockpit?
http://www.paulnann.com/Make.asp?Make=D ... _w1873.jpg
http://www.paulnann.com/Make.asp?Make=D ... _w1873.jpg
Posted: Sun Mar 15, 2009 9:30 pm
Boy, I sure don't know....Was the Vampire built with a wood fuselage?
Posted: Sun Mar 15, 2009 9:37 pm
Wood cockpit on the Vampire.
Jerry
Jerry
Posted: Sun Mar 15, 2009 9:59 pm
Yeah, but it was along the same process as the Mossie, molded veneers on the outside (both inner and outer) and a balsa sheet sandwiched in between, and fabric over the outer veneer.
Those look to be considerably older and more along the lines of a limited production light plane from the 30's/40's
Those look to be considerably older and more along the lines of a limited production light plane from the 30's/40's
Posted: Sun Mar 15, 2009 10:55 pm
It would appear to have a nosewheel well under the forward bulkhead, but no provision for a firewall if it had a tractor engine???? Dunno??
Posted: Sun Mar 15, 2009 10:57 pm
Looks like it had a retractable nose gear and had two seats side-by-side. Culver V?
Posted: Mon Mar 16, 2009 12:36 pm
bdk, I think your on the right track, how about a Culver drone PDQ-8 or 14?
http://www.aerofiles.com/culver-pq8.jpg
http://www.aerofiles.com/culver-PQ14A.jpg
http://www.aerofiles.com/culver-pq8.jpg
http://www.aerofiles.com/culver-PQ14A.jpg
Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2009 12:35 pm
Don't think it's a Culver, as mentionned before, look like a remain of wheel well into the lower firewall center. But not big and round enough for the Vampire and this last one had a small metal frame windshield.
You can also see 4 rusted metal piece for single engine mount. Could be Homebuilt Czetkovick Firefly CA-65. There is not enough different ones out there! we'll probably never know.
Alain.
You can also see 4 rusted metal piece for single engine mount. Could be Homebuilt Czetkovick Firefly CA-65. There is not enough different ones out there! we'll probably never know.
Alain.
Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2009 12:38 pm
Just looked at the second link on the Culver, I should have checked before 
this is more like it. the retractable one you're right.
Alain
this is more like it. the retractable one you're right.
Alain
Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2009 1:29 pm
I think you guys may be close...
Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2009 1:33 pm
I dunno, y'all. The turtledeck on the Culver pictured looks more "pointy" to me than the rounded off turtledeck on the airframe(s) in question.
Gary
Gary
Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2009 2:23 pm
Also the 45 degree angle piece between the large bulkhead and the horizontal stringer runing from front to back below shoulder height, not common to the Culver...
Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2009 7:56 pm
Also, Culver PQ-14 is only about 22 inches across at the canopy rails. The pieces in the original pic are probably closer to 40 inches across
Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2009 8:22 pm
Certainly not a PQ-14. might be a PQ-8, but those are quite rare and as you note, that 45 degree angle feature is not consistent with the Culver series.Alain wrote:Also the 45 degree angle piece between the large bulkhead and the horizontal stringer runing from front to back below shoulder height, not common to the Culver...
As for a homebuilt, that's anybody's guess! There are a lot more possibilities there.