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Scott,

God bless your heart, You know your opening a can of worms? I've been sorting through pictures of these for 30+ years, and your headed into madness. Soooooooooooo, heres my beginners list, in no particular order, but earlier to later dates

If not us then who? If not now then when?

It is a daunting task, but if I sat down and thought about creating the Registry I would have thought it to be an impossibility, but look at it now! We shall start small and with help it will grow to be a primary resource for this genre of aircraft. We will focus on the smaller, lesser know types and move on from there!

Onward! Onward my merry band of whackos!

Please, I beg you not to let this new endeavor dilute the continuing progress of the Warbirds Registry! After all this is the WIX, not the AIX. Now if someone were to volunteer to take this on without detriment to the Warbirds Registry I am all for it.

:shock:

I guess we probably won't finish by December

One way I deal with this with the Warbird Registry is by only adding aircraft I have pictures of, we might have to start that way and work on getting a general listing of each type and time and labor permits.

Daunting, isn't it?

Scott WRG Editor wrote:

I am in, Scott. I offer my limited computer skills and overwhelming enthusiasm for vintage aircraft! Sent you a PM as well.

Is there a way to set this up so that people could enter the data via the web, and the webmaster approve or disapprove the "post" to the registry with a button click? That'd save some work.

Ryan

Is there a way to set this up so that people could enter the data via the web, and the webmaster approve or disapprove the "post" to the registry with a button click? That'd save some work.

Author:	Scott Rose [ Mon Jan 22, 2007 8:18 pm ]
Post subject:	Vintage Aircraft Resource Center
We are contemplating creating a Vintage Aircraft Resource Center that would cover civil aircraft from 1903-1960 or so. This will include a registry of aircraft that are still around and those that no longer exsist. This is a long term project and we will be looking for help with this as it progresses. Pictures and data are welcome as usual. The first step would be to create a list of aircraft you all think should be covered. For that respond to this topic and we will start compilling a list. Also, and pictures or data can be sent to vintage@REMOVEwarbirdsresourcegroup.org (delete the REMOVE before sending) this is not my area of knowledge so I need your assistance, the intention is to turn this over to an assistant editor once we get started. Let me know your opinions.

Author:	Roger Cain [ Mon Jan 22, 2007 9:02 pm ]
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Scott, God bless your heart, You know your opening a can of worms? I've been sorting through pictures of these for 30+ years, and your headed into madness. Soooooooooooo, heres my beginners list, in no particular order, but earlier to later dates Curtiss Jenny & Robin Brunner Winkler Bird Travel Air Curtiss Wright Great Lakes Parks Pitcairn Stearman Laird Monocoupe Spartan Howard Funk Meyers (OTW) Boeing (model 75 Stearmans) Ryan Porterfield Interstate Rearwin Waco Fleet Fairchild Call Air Ford Trimotor Stinson Beech Bellanca Aeronca Pietenpol Luscombe Taylor Taylorcraft Piper Culver Mooney Lockheed Globe/Temco Swift Cessna Erco (all versions) Navion Navion Timm These are just a few of the major American manufacturers on my album covers, not including early airliners. Juptners has a nine volume book series on these, and for a closer look at types, take a look at this website, that barely has room for a picture of each model/type: http://www.aerofiles.com/aircraft.html I'm in no way discouraging you, but you'll almost need one person per type, if you plan to post pictures...............

Author:	Scott Rose [ Mon Jan 22, 2007 9:38 pm ]
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Roger Cain wrote: Scott, God bless your heart, You know your opening a can of worms? I've been sorting through pictures of these for 30+ years, and your headed into madness. Soooooooooooo, heres my beginners list, in no particular order, but earlier to later dates If not us then who? If not now then when? It is a daunting task, but if I sat down and thought about creating the Registry I would have thought it to be an impossibility, but look at it now! We shall start small and with help it will grow to be a primary resource for this genre of aircraft. We will focus on the smaller, lesser know types and move on from there! Onward! Onward my merry band of whackos!

Author:	Roger Cain [ Mon Jan 22, 2007 10:01 pm ]
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Carry on then, I've got plenty on the SAH website under my name, that your welcome to use............

Author:	C170BDan [ Mon Jan 22, 2007 11:40 pm ]
Post subject:	Vintage
Scott WRG Editor wrote: If not us then who? If not now then when? It is a daunting task, but if I sat down and thought about creating the Registry I would have thought it to be an impossibility, but look at it now! We shall start small and with help it will grow to be a primary resource for this genre of aircraft. We will focus on the smaller, lesser know types and move on from there! Onward! Onward my merry band of whackos! I am in, Scott. I offer my limited computer skills and overwhelming enthusiasm for vintage aircraft! Sent you a PM as well.

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Author:	bdk [ Tue Jan 23, 2007 12:32 am ]
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Please, I beg you not to let this new endeavor dilute the continuing progress of the Warbirds Registry! After all this is the WIX, not the AIX. Now if someone were to volunteer to take this on without detriment to the Warbirds Registry I am all for it.

Author:	Scott Rose [ Tue Jan 23, 2007 9:10 am ]
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bdk wrote: Please, I beg you not to let this new endeavor dilute the continuing progress of the Warbirds Registry! After all this is the WIX, not the AIX. Now if someone were to volunteer to take this on without detriment to the Warbirds Registry I am all for it. Fear not B, I am looking to make this more of an independant project with the bulk of the work being done by others. I already have somebody in mind to run it and Dan has volunteered to help out. Once it gets going I will basically play overseer and thats about it (hopefully). My two primary goals this year are to maintain and expand the registry as well as update the Luftwaffe Center and the USAAF Resource Center. The Vietnam Center will be opening soon but I have some help with that. Also, the Korean Aviation Resource Center will be created dealing with the Korean conflict (or police action) aviation. Things are going to be expanding all over this year!

Author:	k5083 [ Tue Jan 23, 2007 9:46 am ]
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Scott, I think this is a great idea, much needed, and the WRC is a great springboard for a new VRC. I only hope it will lead to a VIX forum as vital and lively as the WIX forum. I don't know if I can commit much editing time, as I have my own impossible project in scanning and sharing the Kamm Collection. But I have many thousands of photos that I can potentially supply. Some decisions would need to be made re. which examples of a type to include in the Registry. I.e. in the WR, you list all warbirds that have appeared on the civil register at any time (among others). With antiques that would basically mean listing every airplane ever built. Perhaps they should be listed only if they survived to some arbitrary date, e.g. 1975, or whatever. One idea might be to start with the ones that are currently on various countries' civil registers and then sort of work backward through museum inventories, older publications like Hunt's V&VA, etc. to catch others that were registered in the past or otherwise preserved. As far as a list of types, a in the 1980s somebody published a book called the "Vintage Airplane Catalogue" that was basically the then-current U.S. civil register filtered for airplanes of a certain age (it included warbirds as well as antiques), sorted, and published as a book. A little while ago I decided to look into doing sort of an update of that, and I got as far as downloading the entire U.S. civil register, filtering it (my criterion was that I kept all types of which at least one example was listed as having a construction date up to 1950, retaining all aircraft of those types regardless of construction date, except I imposed a date cutoff for a few long-running types like the Bonanza) and beginning the sorting and formatting. The list of types that resulted from that process, with the warbirds removed and a little cleaning up done, follows this message. At least one example of each of the following types was on the USCR as of a few months ago. There are, of course, other types in museums for which there is no example still registered. I have done this exercise also with the Canadian civil register and would like to do it with the UK's, but the UK charge$ for the download of that. You might be interested to know that my current working spreadsheet, which includes all registered warbirds and WWI replicas but is mainly antiques, lists over 63,000 airplanes. August - - - - - - - - - - Adcox Student Prince Aerocar Aeromarine-Klemm L-26 Aeronca C-2 Aeronca C-3 Aeronca CF Aeronca K Aeronca L Aeronca T Aeronca TL Aeronca Model 7 Champ Aeronca Model 11 Aeronca Model 15 Aeronca Model 50 Aeronca Model 60 Aeronca Model 65 Aetna Aerocraft Air Race ARC Special Aircraft Engineering Ace Aircraft Manufacturing Texas Bullet Aircraft Mechanics Eaglerock Airutility AU18 Albrecht Helicar All American Model 10A Alliance Argo Allied Model 2 American Airplane Pilgrim American Eagle A-1 American Eagle Eaglet American Eagle Model 101 American Eagle Model 129 American Eagle Model 201 American Eagle Model 430 American Eagle Model 540 Anderson AND-51 Arrow Aircraft Arrow Sport Arrow Model F Ashley SP-5 Auster Avro 594 Avian Avro 643 Cadet Baker McMillen Cadet Bay Aviation Super V Bee Aviation Honey Bee Beech 17 Staggerwing Beech 18 Beech 35 Bonanza Beech 50 Twin Bonanza Bellanca Model 14 Cruisair/Cruisemaster Bellanca Model 27 Aircruiser Bellanca Model 31/CH Pacemaker Bellow Flex CC Benson B8M Boeing Model 40 Boeing Model 204 Boeing Model 247 Boeing Model 307 Stratoliner Boeing Model 367 Boeing Model 377 Stratocruiser Bourdon Kitty Hawk Bowlus BA-100 Brown Brunner-Winkle Bird Bucher Special Bucker Bu 131 Jungmann Bucker Bu 133 Jungmeister Bucker Bu 181 Budd RB-1 Buhl CA-3 Buhl Pup LA-1 Butler Black Hawk Callair Camair Carpenter Casey Caudron C-635 Centaur 101 Longren L-13 Centrair 101 Cessna AW Cessna C-34 Airmaster Cessna C-37 Airmaster Cessna C-38 Airmaster Cessna C-145 Airmaster Cessna C-165 Airmaster Cessna 120 Cessna 140 Cessna 170 Cessna 180 Cessna 190 Cessna 195, LC-126 Cessna 310 Cessna Skymaster Champaign Public Schools Goeppingen Wolf Chester Special Coffman Ranger Command-Aire C-3 Consolidated 21 Corben Baby Ace Craig Aircar Crossley Moonbeam Crown City Robertson Crump Culver LCA, TD-2 Cadet Culver V Cumulus 2F Cunningham-Hall PT-6 Curtiss 19 Curtiss CW-1 and replicas Curtiss Fledgling Curtiss GCW-1 Curtiss JN-4 Jenny, JN-4C Canuck, and replicas Curtiss Oriole Curtiss Robin Curtiss Sedan 15-D Curtiss T-32 Condor Dart Davis de Havilland D.H. 104 Dove de Havilland D.H. 114 Heron de Havilland D.H. 60 Moth de Havilland D.H. 71 de Havilland D.H. 80 Puss Moth de Havilland D.H. 82 Tiger Moth de Havilland D.H. 83 Fox Moth de Havilland D.H. 84 Dragon de Havilland D.H.87 Hornet Moth de Havilland D.H. 88 Comet replicas de Havilland D.H. 89 Dragon Rapide de Havilland D.H. 90 Dragonfly de Havilland D.H. 94 Moth Minor de Havilland Comet (jet airliner) de Havilland Canada DHC-2 Beaver de Havilland Canada DHC-3 Otter Denny I Dewoitine D.26 Dixon Special Douglas M-2 Douglas DC-2 Douglas DC-3 Douglas DC-4, Canadair DC-4M Doyle O-2 Driggs Duramold Eaglerock Earl Popular Easley Eaton Eichman Elmendorf Emigh Ercoupe Fairchild FC-2 Fairchild KR-21 Fairchild KR-31 Fairchild KR-34 Fairchild Model 22 Fairchild Model 24 Fairchild Model 42 Fairchild Model 45 Fairchild Model 71 Federal C-3605 Flagg F-13 Fleet Model 1 Fleet Model 2 Fleet Model 7 Fleet Model 8 Fleet Model 9 Fleet Model 10 Fleet Model 11 Fleet Model 16 Finch Fleetwings Focke-Wulf Kranich Fokker C-4 Ford Trimotor Ford Flivver replicas Francis-Angell Frankfort Franklin Frenard Funk Garber Gavin General Aircraft Geuther Globe/Temco Swift Golden Eagle Granville Gee Bee replicas Great Lakes 2T Grumman G-21 Goose Grumman G-44 Widgeon Grumman G-73 Mallard Grunau Hamilton Metalplane Hammond Hannaford-Rose Harlow Hartmann Haufe Dale Hayden & Clark Heath Helmerichs Horton Howard Ike and replicas Howard DGA-3 Howard DGA-4 Howard DGA-6 replicas Howard DGA-8 Howard DGA-9 Howard DGA-11 Howard DGA-15 Howard DGA-18 Huff Ikrus Inland Interstate Jamieson Johnson Rocket Kadiak KC-2 Kaiser F5 Kaman Kellett Kensinger Keystone Kinner Klemm Knight Twister Kramme & Zeuthen Kreider-Reisner Kursawe Laird Laister-Kauffman Lark Lawrence Tech Levier Lincoln Lincoln Page Lockheed Vega Lockheed Orion Lockheed Model 10 Lockheed Model 12 Lockheed Model 14 Lockheed Model 18 Lockheed Model x49 Constellation Long Loose Luscombe Phantom Luscombe Model 4 Luscombe Model 8 Luscombe Model 11 Luton Minor MacManiman Marchetti S-56 McClish Funk Mercury Meyers OTW Meyers MAC-145 Midwest MIgnet Easton Miller Special Miller UT-1 Miller Y-1S Millercraft Minx Monocoupe 70 Monocoupe 90 Monocoupe 110 Monocoupe 113 Monocoupe 145 Monocoupe Other Models Mooney M-18 Mite Morane-Saulnier 130 Morane-Saulnier 181 Morane-Saulnier 230 Moswey Navion Nay Nelson New Standard D-25 New Standard D-29 New Standard D-30 Nicholas Beazley Noorduyn Norseman Nord SV-4 Stampe Northrop Delta Olympia Overland Paramount Parks Parks P2A Pasped Skylark Peterson Pheasant Phillips Pietenpol Pietenpol Air Camper Pilatus Piper J-2 Piper J-3 Cub Piper J-4 Cub Coupe Piper J-5 Cub Cruiser Piper PA-11 Cub Special Piper PA-12 Super Cruiser Piper PA-14 Family Cruiser Piper PA-15 Vagabond Piper PA-16 Clipper Piper PA-17 Vagabond Piper PT-1 Piper TG-8 Pitcairn Platt LePage Porterfield CP-40 Porterfield CP-50 Porterfield CP-55 Porterfield Model 35 Porterfield Model 65 Porterfield Model 75 Post Pratt Read Ralston Rand Rawdon Rearwin-Commonwealth 175 Rearwin-Commonwealth 180 Rearwin-Commonwealth 185 Skyranger Rearwin-Commonwealth 190 Rearwin-Commonwealth 2000 Rearwin-Commonwealth 6000 Rearwin-Commonwealth 7000 Rearwin-Commonwealth 8090 Rearwin-Commonwealth 8125 Rearwin-Commonwealth 8135 Rearwin-Commonwealth 8500 Rearwin-Commonwealth 9000 Republic RC-3 Rider Riley Rose Ryan M-1, M-2 Ryan NYP replicas Ryan B-1, B-5, B-7 Brougham Ryan SCW Ryan ST Saint Louis Scandinavian Schleicher Schweizer Scott Security National Shannon & Buente Sikorsky S-38 Sikorsky S-39 Sikorsky S-43 Simplex Sioux Sky Craft Skylark Slingsby Slower-Reinhardt Smoe Spartan C2 Spartan C3 Spartan Model 12 Spartan Model 7 Spartan NP Sport-Flugzeugbau Standard J-1 Star Cavalier State Securities Arrow F Stearman 4-C Stearman 4CM Stearman 4D Stearman 4E Stearman 6C Stearman 6L Stearman Alpha 4-A Stearman Ariel A-1 Stearman C2-A Stearman C3 Stearman M-2 Stearman Model 70 Stearman Model B Steimmetz Stephens Stinson 105, HW75 Stinson JR Stinson Model A Stinson Model W Stinson SM Stinson SR Reliant, AT-19, V-77, UC-81 Stinson Model 10 Stinson Model 108 Voyager Strange Strat Swallow Swenson Taylor E-2 Cub Taylorcraft B-2 Taylorcraft FA Continental Taylorcraft H-2 Taylorcraft Model 19 Taylorcraft Model A Taylorcraft Model BC Taylorcraft Model BF Taylorcraft Model BL Taylorcraft Model DC Taylorcraft Model DF Taylorcraft TG-6 Teicher Temco D-16 Twin Navion Thalman Thorp Timm Trager T-3 Travel Air 2000 Travel Air 3000 Travel Air 4000 Travel Air 5000 Travel Air 6000 Travel Air 9000 Travel Air Model 10 Travel Air Model 12 Travel Air Model 14 Travel Air Model 16 Travel Air Model 4 Travel Air Model 6 Travel Air Model A Travel Air Model R Travel Air Mystery Ship Trella U.S. Flying Services University of Minnesota UMG-3 Viking Kitty Hawk Volmer Vultee V-1A Waco 10 Waco 125 Waco 220 Waco 4 Waco 9 Waco AGC-8, EGC-8, ZGC-8 Waco ARE, SRE, HRE Waco ASO, BSO, PSO Waco ATO, CTO Waco AVN-8 Waco CJC Waco CPF-1 Waco CRG Waco CUC Waco DJC-6 Waco DQC-6, EQC-6, YQC-6, ZQC-6 Waco EGC-7 Waco ENF, INF, KNF, RNF Waco GXE Waco IBA, PBA, RBA, UBA Waco JWM Waco JYM Waco PBF, UBF Waco PCF, QCF Waco PLA, ULA Waco QCF-2 Waco QDC Waco RPT Waco S3HD Waco UBF-2 Waco UEC Waco UIC Waco UKC, YKC Waco UKS-6, VKS-6, YKS-6 Waco UKS-7, VKS-7, YKS-7 Waco UMF, YMF and replicas Waco UMF-5, YMF-5 and replicas Waco UPF-7, VPF-7, YPF-7, ZPF-7 Waco YMF-3 Waco YOC Waco YPF-6 Waco ZVN-8 Wallace Warsztaty Wedell-Williams Welch Whittman Wilcox Williams Williams-Harold Wilson Special Winstead Wittman Wood Zlin

Author:	Scott Rose [ Tue Jan 23, 2007 12:11 pm ]
Post subject:
I guess we probably won't finish by December One way I deal with this with the Warbird Registry is by only adding aircraft I have pictures of, we might have to start that way and work on getting a general listing of each type and time and labor permits. Daunting, isn't it?

Author:	C170BDan [ Tue Jan 23, 2007 1:42 pm ]
Post subject:	VRG
Scott WRG Editor wrote: :shock: I guess we probably won't finish by December One way I deal with this with the Warbird Registry is by only adding aircraft I have pictures of, we might have to start that way and work on getting a general listing of each type and time and labor permits. Daunting, isn't it? And I was just thinking a few of these types! Looks like August and Roger just gave us a good jump start on the type list! December will be the goal we just wont say what year!

Author:	Mike [ Tue Jan 23, 2007 1:51 pm ]
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Shame on you Roger, for missing one of my personal favourites off the list - the Alexander Eaglerock. See you at Moffett in a couple of weeks?

Author:	global111 [ Tue Jan 23, 2007 5:48 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Vintage
C170BDan wrote: Scott WRG Editor wrote: If not us then who? If not now then when? It is a daunting task, but if I sat down and thought about creating the Registry I would have thought it to be an impossibility, but look at it now! We shall start small and with help it will grow to be a primary resource for this genre of aircraft. We will focus on the smaller, lesser know types and move on from there! Onward! Onward my merry band of whackos! I am in, Scott. I offer my limited computer skills and overwhelming enthusiasm for vintage aircraft! Sent you a PM as well. I'll help with the web design if you wish, one of my favourite things, apart from Vintage Aircraft

Author:	RyanShort1 [ Tue Jan 23, 2007 6:19 pm ]
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Is there a way to set this up so that people could enter the data via the web, and the webmaster approve or disapprove the "post" to the registry with a button click? That'd save some work. Ryan

Author:	dj51d [ Tue Jan 23, 2007 6:33 pm ]
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RyanShort1 wrote: Is there a way to set this up so that people could enter the data via the web, and the webmaster approve or disapprove the "post" to the registry with a button click? That'd save some work. Ryan I've been kicking that idea around in my head for a while. The trick is finding the time to work on such a system.

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Author:	k5083 [ Tue Jan 23, 2007 8:10 pm ]
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RyanShort1 wrote: Is there a way to set this up so that people could enter the data via the web, and the webmaster approve or disapprove the "post" to the registry with a button click? That'd save some work. Yes, I've been thinking of that, and the most obvious method would be a wiki based system (wikipedia being the best-known implementation). With wiki, users -- any users, even visitors with no account -- just enter, modify and update content and it has immediate effect, but the webmaster can monitor and change it back. You would think it would get abused by users but it seems to work fairly well. I know nothing about programming such a system but considering how participatory the vintage airplane community is and how many people have useful knowledge, it's very intriguing. August