Surviving DH-4s
Fri Feb 17, 2006 11:41 pm
How many?
I can think of four off the top of my head (but I'm feeling a bit sleepy right now). Postal Museum, NASM, NMUSAF, Al Stix (spelling?).
Any more? Status? Identification #s?
I can think of four off the top of my head (but I'm feeling a bit sleepy right now). Postal Museum, NASM, NMUSAF, Al Stix (spelling?).
Any more? Status? Identification #s?
Sun Feb 19, 2006 3:41 am
Wellll, that's a Jenny, Rob. Which compared to DH-4s are common as muck.
Genuine, W.W.I built DH-4s (as opposed to reps and postwar a/c) Ray Rimmell's W.W.I survivors lists one - the NASM example.
Genuine, W.W.I built DH-4s (as opposed to reps and postwar a/c) Ray Rimmell's W.W.I survivors lists one - the NASM example.
Mon Feb 20, 2006 12:00 am
Wolverine,
That is a good question and considering the type's roll in early U.S. aviation history, both military and civilian, I suppose there should be a "survivors" list. In an attempt to gather information regarding my father's DH-4M2, I mostly looked for steel tube fuselage DH-4M models. I have so far only found two. Evergreen's DH-4M1 (Boeing), Western Reserve Historical Society's DH-4M1 (Boeing) in Cleveland, and my father's DH-4M2. As far as wood fuselage DH-4s I could add the Crissy Field (San Francisco) DH-4B?, and Kermit's three or four DH-4B? projects. Anyone know of any others?
I would love to see photos of a DH-4M2 (Atlantic Aircraft "Fokker") in civilian use or as a contract mail plane. Any help would be much appreciated. My father's should be flyable this summer, Glen Peck plans on flying it to Oshkosh. Glen is nuts, he flew my father's Tank OX-5 Robin to Oshkosh a few years ago. St. Louis to Oshkosh behind a Liberty? No thanks, I'll fly the Stearman as a chase plane.
Keep Em Flyin! If they don't fly, they are just statues.
That is a good question and considering the type's roll in early U.S. aviation history, both military and civilian, I suppose there should be a "survivors" list. In an attempt to gather information regarding my father's DH-4M2, I mostly looked for steel tube fuselage DH-4M models. I have so far only found two. Evergreen's DH-4M1 (Boeing), Western Reserve Historical Society's DH-4M1 (Boeing) in Cleveland, and my father's DH-4M2. As far as wood fuselage DH-4s I could add the Crissy Field (San Francisco) DH-4B?, and Kermit's three or four DH-4B? projects. Anyone know of any others?
I would love to see photos of a DH-4M2 (Atlantic Aircraft "Fokker") in civilian use or as a contract mail plane. Any help would be much appreciated. My father's should be flyable this summer, Glen Peck plans on flying it to Oshkosh. Glen is nuts, he flew my father's Tank OX-5 Robin to Oshkosh a few years ago. St. Louis to Oshkosh behind a Liberty? No thanks, I'll fly the Stearman as a chase plane.
Keep Em Flyin! If they don't fly, they are just statues.
Mon Feb 20, 2006 7:51 am
I think the NMUSAF has one, or at least the remains of one. I remember when I was on a behind-the-scenes tour in 95 or 96 being shown a few crates with parts in them that I was told was a DH-4.
Mike
Mike
Mon Feb 20, 2006 10:03 pm
There is a DH 4 at Creve Crouer (Sp?) near St Louis...she is being rebuilt to fly.
Jim
Jim
Thu Feb 23, 2006 4:43 am
astixjr wrote:........I could add the Crissy Field (San Francisco) DH-4B.
Does anyone have any further info in this one?
Sat Feb 25, 2006 12:37 am
Rob, The Harry Jones plane is a Jenny, right? And Owlshead has a Standard J1, Also?!
Sun Feb 26, 2006 10:46 pm
Don,
Not sure what type of plane Harry Jones has but Owlshead does have a flying Standard J1 and I think it actually has the original four banger in it. I've been working on a list of DH-4 survivors in the U.S. but many do not have registration numbers and I have never seen a S/N on any of them, wood fuselage or metal. It's slow going. Where is the Harry Jones airplane? Thanks
Albert Stix
Not sure what type of plane Harry Jones has but Owlshead does have a flying Standard J1 and I think it actually has the original four banger in it. I've been working on a list of DH-4 survivors in the U.S. but many do not have registration numbers and I have never seen a S/N on any of them, wood fuselage or metal. It's slow going. Where is the Harry Jones airplane? Thanks
Albert Stix
Thu Mar 30, 2006 2:33 pm
mrhenniger wrote:I think the NMUSAF has one, or at least the remains of one. I remember when I was on a behind-the-scenes tour in 95 or 96 being shown a few crates with parts in them that I was told was a DH-4.
Mike
Visited in Aug '04 and there was one hanging from the celing of the R+D hangar
Sat Apr 01, 2006 5:32 pm
Albert, Harry Jones was an early Maine aviator, flying out of Old Orchard Beach in the twenties and thirties. Here are some photos of the OHTM airplane and a couple of others.
Don
http://warbirdinformationexchange.org/p ... ply&t=6422
Don
http://warbirdinformationexchange.org/p ... ply&t=6422
Sun Apr 02, 2006 12:22 am
Outstanding Don. I love the old Sikorsky amphibs.
I have to say, that Ford logo looks very out of place on the Bushmaster.
I have to say, that Ford logo looks very out of place on the Bushmaster.
Sun Apr 02, 2006 3:32 pm
Glad you like them, Dan. I just thought I'd throw them in.
Mon Apr 03, 2006 9:09 pm
Don,
Great photos, any chance OHTM has another J-1 with the Hall Scott 4 cylinder? Seems like I once saw a photo of one up your way a few years ago. This one looks like it's got a 150 Hisso. Dick's Sikorsky is very cool but from my point of view, nothing will compare to his S3HDA Waco. If money were no object and I could only own one bi-plane, it would have to be that one.
Great photos, any chance OHTM has another J-1 with the Hall Scott 4 cylinder? Seems like I once saw a photo of one up your way a few years ago. This one looks like it's got a 150 Hisso. Dick's Sikorsky is very cool but from my point of view, nothing will compare to his S3HDA Waco. If money were no object and I could only own one bi-plane, it would have to be that one.
Sat Jun 24, 2006 11:11 pm
As mentioined above, one's being restored to fly in Missouri...I recently saw a photo and it's about done.
I have a photo, email me for a copy.
I have a photo, email me for a copy.
Re: Surviving DH-4s
Sun Jan 20, 2013 11:33 pm
I hope nobody minds me bringing this old thread back from the dead, but I'm trying to compile a list of surviving DH-4s
So far I have:
Restored originals:
Creve Coeur - Metal Fuselage mailplane (flown for a while in 2006-7)
Evergreen - Metal Fuselage mailplane
Weeks - Wooden Fuselage mailplane (under restoration)
Peter Jackson - Wooden Fuselage bomber
USAF Museum - Wooden Fuselage bomber
NASM - Wooden Fuselage bomber
National Postal Museum - Wooden Fuselage mailplane
USMC Museum - Wooden Fuselage bomber (ex-Crissy Field, San Francisco)
Replicas:
Peter Jackson - Wooden Fuselage bomber (under construction)
Kermit Weeks - Wooden Fuselage bomber (under construction)
Any more out there? I believe parts of 4 (ex-Tallmantz?) were with Kermit Weeks at one time. Does anyone know where the others ended up?
So far I have:
Restored originals:
Creve Coeur - Metal Fuselage mailplane (flown for a while in 2006-7)
Evergreen - Metal Fuselage mailplane
Weeks - Wooden Fuselage mailplane (under restoration)
Peter Jackson - Wooden Fuselage bomber
USAF Museum - Wooden Fuselage bomber
NASM - Wooden Fuselage bomber
National Postal Museum - Wooden Fuselage mailplane
USMC Museum - Wooden Fuselage bomber (ex-Crissy Field, San Francisco)
Replicas:
Peter Jackson - Wooden Fuselage bomber (under construction)
Kermit Weeks - Wooden Fuselage bomber (under construction)
Any more out there? I believe parts of 4 (ex-Tallmantz?) were with Kermit Weeks at one time. Does anyone know where the others ended up?