It would be nice to see them think outside the box a little.
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| Author: | tom d. friedman [ Wed Jan 09, 2013 4:18 pm ] |
| Post subject: | 2013 cleveland nat. airshow has a big problem!! |
i spoke with the senior vice president of the cleveland national air show today & he told me that the fall 2013 show does not have a headline act booked. the blues are doing an international tour in europe, the thunderbirds have a prior a booking elsewhere, & to get an act such as the snowbirds or another foreign act is not cost effective because the airshow would have to foot the bill for all the incidentals such as lodging, meals, etc. not to mention the red tape involved by sponsoring an overseas act. this guy still sounded confident so maybe the show will pull something out of their hat! |
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| Author: | Dizzle729 [ Fri Jan 18, 2013 7:36 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 2013 cleveland nat. airshow has a big problem!! |
Perhaps this will force them into creating a different type of show rather than put on the normal, run of the mill airshow. I remember when they brought unique things in like the MIG 29 before the Soviet collapse. It would be nice to see them think outside the box a little. |
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| Author: | tom d. friedman [ Fri Jan 18, 2013 5:03 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 2013 cleveland nat. airshow has a big problem!! |
i agree w/ your opinion!! i know the guy who payed for the flight in the mig 29. he paid twenty thousand dollars for a 1/2 hour flight. that was some years ago. he was pretty hefty, they probably needed a shoe horn to get him in. i recall many mc'donalds wrappers in his hangar. nice guy, & big into warbirds. he bought a spread in west virginia in the last 10 years. |
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| Author: | Anthony Svihlik [ Tue Feb 05, 2013 10:46 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 2013 cleveland nat. airshow has a big problem!! |
tom d. friedman wrote: i spoke with the senior vice president of the cleveland national air show today & he told me that the fall 2013 show does not have a headline act booked. the blues are doing an international tour in europe, the thunderbirds have a prior a booking elsewhere, & to get an act such as the snowbirds or another foreign act is not cost effective because the airshow would have to foot the bill for all the incidentals such as lodging, meals, etc. not to mention the red tape involved by sponsoring an overseas act. this guy still sounded confident so maybe the show will pull something out of their hat! A few clarifications: tom d. friedman wrote: the blues are doing an international tour in europe The Blue Angels are NOT touring overseas this year. tom d. friedman wrote: the thunderbirds have a prior a booking elsewhere The Thunderbirds ARE conducting a Pacific / Asia tour in 2013. This would have been their year to attend Cleveland (Cleveland hosted the Blues last year and normally alternates between the Blues and the Thunderbirds) but that commitment comes first. tom d. friedman wrote: to get an act such as the snowbirds The Snowbirds participate in the Canadian International Air Show in Toronto, which is the culminating event of the Canadian National Exhibition (and is held during Labor Day Weekend, same as the Cleveland show). The Snowbirds will not bypass that function to perform at a show in the United States. tom d. friedman wrote: or another foreign act No foreign acts are touring the United States in 2013. tom d. friedman wrote: maybe the show will pull something out of their hat! Cleveland WILL have the F-22 Raptor demonstration (the 2013 F-22 Demo Schedule was just released on the Air Combat Command Aerial Events Facebook page here), so that will be the show's headline act. There will also be civilian acts making their Cleveland National Air Show debut this year, so there will be performances that the Cleveland "regulars" have never seen before. Anthony |
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| Author: | tom d. friedman [ Tue Feb 05, 2013 12:09 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 2013 cleveland nat. airshow has a big problem!! |
that is good news!! where do you get the in the know info?? |
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| Author: | Dizzle729 [ Wed Feb 06, 2013 7:19 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 2013 cleveland nat. airshow has a big problem!! |
Anthony Svihlik wrote: tom d. friedman wrote: i spoke with the senior vice president of the cleveland national air show today & he told me that the fall 2013 show does not have a headline act booked. the blues are doing an international tour in europe, the thunderbirds have a prior a booking elsewhere, & to get an act such as the snowbirds or another foreign act is not cost effective because the airshow would have to foot the bill for all the incidentals such as lodging, meals, etc. not to mention the red tape involved by sponsoring an overseas act. this guy still sounded confident so maybe the show will pull something out of their hat! A few clarifications: The Blue Angels are NOT touring overseas this year. The Thunderbirds ARE conducting a Pacific / Asia tour in 2013. This would have been their year to attend Cleveland (Cleveland hosted the Blues last year and normally alternates between the Blues and the Thunderbirds) but that commitment comes first. The Snowbirds participate in the Canadian International Air Show in Toronto, which is the culminating event of the Canadian National Exhibition (and is held during Labor Day Weekend, same as the Cleveland show). The Snowbirds will not bypass that function to perform at a show in the United States. No foreign acts are touring the United States in 2013. Cleveland WILL have the F-22 Raptor demonstration (the 2013 F-22 Demo Schedule was just released on the Air Combat Command Aerial Events Facebook page here), so that will be the show's headline act. There will also be civilian acts making their Cleveland National Air Show debut this year, so there will be performances that the Cleveland "regulars" have never seen before. Anthony Great info, thanks for sharing. Sounds like this could be one of the unique years for the Cleveland show. Since I cant make any out of state shows this year, its nice to have hope the local show will be something different. |
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| Author: | Anthony Svihlik [ Wed Mar 06, 2013 9:50 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 2013 cleveland nat. airshow has a big problem!! |
An update from The Plain Dealer regarding the Cleveland show: Sequester could shut down air shows across the nation Specifics pertaining to Cleveland: Chuck Newcomb, executive director of the Cleveland National Air Show since 1975, said he is going forward with the belief that military hardware will be available for the Labor Day weekend show here, but will reassess things come June 1. Newcomb said that if the sequester forces the government to withdraw all military aircraft from 2013 air shows, he will have to “examine financial viability of the [Cleveland] show.” He said modern military aircraft, and World War II warbirds are top draws and without them the public is likely to stay home. Anthony |
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| Author: | myteaquinn [ Wed Mar 06, 2013 7:58 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 2013 cleveland nat. airshow has a big problem!! |
I just finished watching the WJW news (local Cleveland TV station). One of the stories was about the Cleveland National Air Show and they interviewed a lady who was associated with the air show, sorry didn't see the video as much as I heard it. Any way she said that without the Thunderbirds the air show may be cancelled. The station reported that the city of Cleveland would lose $7,000,000.00. By the way the video they showed of the Thunderbirds was of the Blue Angels. |
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| Author: | Anthony Svihlik [ Thu Mar 07, 2013 10:19 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 2013 cleveland nat. airshow has a big problem!! |
myteaquinn wrote: I just finished watching the WJW news (local Cleveland TV station). One of the stories was about the Cleveland National Air Show and they interviewed a lady who was associated with the air show, sorry didn't see the video as much as I heard it. Any way she said that without the Thunderbirds the air show may be cancelled. The station reported that the city of Cleveland would lose $7,000,000.00. By the way the video they showed of the Thunderbirds was of the Blue Angels. Saw that news segment as well on Cleveland FOX affiliate WJW-8: Cleveland Air Show Affected by Sequester It's a shame that the segment mentions that the Thunderbirds were to appear at the 2013 show. The Thunderbirds were originally scheduled for a Pacific / Asia tour this year and were NOT going to appear at Cleveland's show in 2013, regardless of the sequestration budget cuts. Anthony |
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| Author: | Anthony Svihlik [ Mon Mar 25, 2013 1:07 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 2013 cleveland nat. airshow has a big problem!! |
From Cleveland ABC affiliate WEWS-5 - the 2013 Cleveland National Air Show has been cancelled: 2013 Cleveland Air Show canceled due to federal sequestration budget cuts Anthony |
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| Author: | Flying Pencil [ Mon Mar 25, 2013 4:13 pm ] |
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Anthony Svihlik wrote: From Cleveland ABC affiliate WEWS-5 - the 2013 Cleveland National Air Show has been cancelled: 2013 Cleveland Air Show canceled due to federal sequestration budget cuts Anthony Blaming the Seq cuts for lack of headlining performance? how many more USAF will not show besides the F-22? |
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| Author: | bombadier29 [ Mon Mar 25, 2013 5:50 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 2013 cleveland nat. airshow has a big problem!! |
Flying Pencil wrote: Blaming the Seq cuts for lack of headlining performance? how many more USAF will not show besides the F-22? NO military will show up. It's not just the F-22 or Thunderbirds. Its the static displays as well. |
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| Author: | tom d. friedman [ Tue Mar 26, 2013 4:24 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 2013 cleveland nat. airshow has a big problem!! |
just what the city of cleveland needs, another lump on the noggin financially!! this news of the cancellation of the air show is going to have a domino affect for the souvenir merchants, bar owners, junk food vendors, etc. this sequestration b.s. "helping the economy" is tantamount to the u.s. government talking out of both sides of it's mouth. the cleveland air show dates back to the old international air races of the 30's & late 40's. sorry to say this is only the beginning across the board. |
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| Author: | dulei [ Tue Apr 30, 2013 4:12 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 2013 cleveland nat. airshow has a big problem!! |
he bought a spread in west virginia in the last 10 years. |
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| Author: | JohnTony [ Mon May 13, 2013 6:00 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 2013 cleveland nat. airshow has a big problem!! |
It would be nice to see them think outside the box a little.
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